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class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="41230" data-end="43650">the body if in the process you destroy the soul.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="44010" data-end="46330">All that and more this week on <a href="https://www.urbancitypodcast.com/radio-health-journal-segment-1-facing-dementia-early-detection-and-advancements-in-treatment/">Radio Health Journal</a>.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="47410" data-end="51190">Do Crohn&#8217;s disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms keep coming back?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="51890" data-end="57110">Tremphaya gazelkomab may help, with rapid remission achieved at 12 weeks and lasting</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="57110" data-end="58750">clinical remission at one year.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="59470" data-end="63790">Some even saw visible improvement of their intestinal lining at 12 weeks and one year.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:04"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="64230" data-end="67810">Tremphaya is a prescription medicine used to treat adults with moderately to severely</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="67810" data-end="72150">active Crohn&#8217;s disease and adults with moderately to severely active ulcerative colitis.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="72590" data-end="76370">Serious allergic reactions and increased risk of infections and liver problems may occur.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="76670" data-end="79670">Before treatment, your doctor should check you for infections and tuberculosis.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:20"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="80230" data-end="83670">Tell your doctor if you have an infection, flu-like symptoms, or if you need a vaccine.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:24"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="84250" data-end="86070">Healing is possible with Tremphaya.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="86070" data-end="90710">Approximately 3 out of 10 patients were in endoscopic remission at one year, based on</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="90710" data-end="94990">areas visualized on colonoscopy, which may not represent the deeper bowel layer or entire</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:35"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="94990" data-end="95650">GI tract.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:36"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="95910" data-end="97230">Individual results may vary.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="97510" data-end="99190">Ask your doctor about Tremphaya today.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:40"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="99790" data-end="105510">Call 1-800-526-7736 to learn more or visit Tremphayaradio.com.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="115720" data-end="119780">Cancer entered Roger Holzberg&#8217;s vocabulary at a young age.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="120100" data-end="124800">His cousin grew up just down the street, and the two were inseparable, until an aggressive</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="124800" data-end="128780">form of pediatric kidney cancer stopped the duo in their tracks.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:09"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="129199" data-end="134640">At age 14, Holzberg watched his best friend fight for eight months until he had nothing</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:15"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="134640" data-end="135420">left to give.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="135660" data-end="140640">About a decade after that, my parents were divorced, my mom was terminal with breast</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="140640" data-end="148880">cancer, and as the oldest kid, I had to make her end-of-life decisions at a time when no</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:29"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="148880" data-end="150300">one should have to make those decisions.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="151380" data-end="155540">My dad, who was a physician at that point, said, so now you&#8217;re going to go into med school</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:36"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="155540" data-end="158140">and help fix this cancer problem, right?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="158480" data-end="162480">To which I said, I&#8217;m going to be as far away from med school as I possibly can be.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:43"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="162700" data-end="163700">I&#8217;m going to art school.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="164200" data-end="169180">Holzberg dove headfirst into his passion, and landed with a position as a creative director</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:49"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="169180" data-end="172120">and vice president at Walt Disney Imagineering.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="172540" data-end="176940">Just when he thought he had the rest of his life figured out, the enemy Holzberg had worked</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="176940" data-end="181040">so hard to distance himself from barged right back into his life.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:02"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="181560" data-end="186520">Despite his strict diet and exercise regimen, Holzberg had begun gaining weight and feeling</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="186520" data-end="187480">more lethargic.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="187880" data-end="189740">I called my physician the next day.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:11"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="190500" data-end="196120">On the eve of my 50th birthday, I heard those three words that one in two American men and</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="196120" data-end="198580">one in three American women hear in their lifetime.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:19"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="198960" data-end="199760">You have cancer.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:20"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="199760" data-end="206520">The good news is it was an early diagnosis, stage one, completely still encapsulated.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:27"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="207180" data-end="210620">And I knew very little about health care at that point.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="211160" data-end="216480">My dad came back into my life and said, so your prognosis looks really good.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="216800" data-end="218040">You ought to do some volunteering.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="218560" data-end="223540">Holzberg pulled together a group of his Imagineer co-workers, and as he successfully fought</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="223540" data-end="228520">his own thyroid cancer, the team adapted some favorite Disney attractions for Children&#8217;s</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:49"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="228520" data-end="229800">Hospital of Orange County.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="229980" data-end="237120">Which included adapting one of our attractions called Turtle Talk with Crush to Children&#8217;s</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="237120" data-end="238140">Hospital of Orange County.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="238620" data-end="244760">And suddenly I met child life specialists and I saw immersive distraction therapy work</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="244760" data-end="250240">and I got to help Crush the Turtle be more than just a goofball surfer dude, to be a</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="250240" data-end="250920">comfort friend.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:11"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="251240" data-end="256060">I&#8217;d say that was the first time the light bulb went off, which was realized in the project</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="256060" data-end="262080">we&#8217;d just opened, where I went, why didn&#8217;t I have stuff like this when I was in adult</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="262080" data-end="262540">treatment?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:23"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="263020" data-end="267900">Holzberg had spent his time in treatment either staring at a blank wall or watching the news</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:28"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="267900" data-end="269620">from a TV in the corner of the room.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:30"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="269840" data-end="277500">I remember sitting in a chair in a hospital going, my healing place is the ocean.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="277760" data-end="283580">If I could be in Malibu, if I could be out the water and there was a dolphin near me,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="283640" data-end="284860">I&#8217;m an ocean swimmer, right?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:45"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="284860" data-end="286600">That would be my healing place.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="286780" data-end="289760">And I went, wait a second, you work for Walt Disney Imagineering.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="290440" data-end="293700">Your job is putting people in virtual places.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:54"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="293860" data-end="298460">You could have been there in every way, but physically, what would that have meant?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="298680" data-end="302880">These realizations led Holzberg to finally jump into the healthcare space.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:03"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="303080" data-end="309220">He co-founded Reimagine Well, a company that uses technology to create immersive healing</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:09"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="309220" data-end="309920">programs.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="310440" data-end="314780">Just around the corner at City of Hope Orange County, Annette Walker was having the same</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:15"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="314780" data-end="315300">thoughts.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="315820" data-end="320220">Known in the healthcare industry as a visionary and innovator, Walker had begun to set her</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:20"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="320220" data-end="322500">sights on the part of care that&#8217;s often overlooked.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:23"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="322940" data-end="324160">The patient experience.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="324620" data-end="331520">There&#8217;s a quote that we kind of like to incorporate into our ethos that there&#8217;s no profit in healing</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:32"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="331520" data-end="334080">the body if in the process you destroy the soul.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:35"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="334620" data-end="338620">Walker is the president of City of Hope Orange County, a comprehensive cancer center.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="339300" data-end="343520">Though the organization isn&#8217;t faith-based, they&#8217;ve realized that their patients are made</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="343520" data-end="348840">up of mind, body, and spirit, which means to have the highest potential for healing,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:49"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="349260" data-end="352060">Walker believes they need to address all three factors.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="352620" data-end="358020">So when it came time to design the program&#8217;s spiritual care center, a vague non-denominational</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:58"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="358020" data-end="359920">room wasn&#8217;t going to cut it.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="360200" data-end="366760">Either they are so generic, they&#8217;re not sacred enough or personal enough to the person who</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="366760" data-end="372140">needs them, or they really are dedicated to one denomination, one faith tradition, and</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:12"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="372140" data-end="373360">the others are excluded.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:14"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="374240" data-end="379900">So I think that our attempts to meet the needs of every patient, I mean, we would do the</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:20"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="379900" data-end="381760">same thing in other aspects of their care.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="381980" data-end="383700">This is one aspect of your care.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:24"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="383840" data-end="388740">So for instance, if you had cancer, you might need nutritional counseling, or you might</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:29"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="388740" data-end="390920">need acupuncture, or you might need something else.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:32"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="391600" data-end="394540">And in all cases, that care is personalized to you.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:35"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="395080" data-end="395980">This is no different.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:36"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="396320" data-end="402060">This is our ability to personalize a spiritual care to the individual&#8217;s needs.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:43"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="402600" data-end="407340">However, the Orange County community has five primary religions, as well as groups that</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="407340" data-end="410820">believe more in spirituality than one specific faith.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:51"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="411320" data-end="415380">As you can imagine, Walker didn&#8217;t have the space for seven separate rooms.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="415800" data-end="421500">So our dilemma was, wow, we have five primary religions in Orange County, as well as people</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:02"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="421500" data-end="425360">who are not religious, but are spiritual and have other needs.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:06"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="426020" data-end="427860">How do we address all these populations?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="428080" data-end="432600">And the idea was presented by our chief operating officer, hey, why don&#8217;t we try immersive reality?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="433080" data-end="440620">And it was like, oh, my God, could we, we&#8217;re so good technically, could we use technology</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="440620" data-end="442860">on the softest part of our services?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:24"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="443580" data-end="445120">And that&#8217;s when they brought in Holzberg.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="445580" data-end="449960">He had already been using immersive technology at the Children&#8217;s Hospital after an oncologist</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:30"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="449960" data-end="453720">had challenged him to find a way of helping the kids who had just been diagnosed with</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:34"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="453720" data-end="454180">cancer.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:34"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="454460" data-end="458420">And he said, you know, my pediatric patients, they get diagnosed with cancer.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="458760" data-end="463060">They immediately feel isolated, depressed, withdrawn.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="463660" data-end="468940">And those three things in concert with chemotherapy is just not good.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="469500" data-end="472680">So how do we change the chemotherapy experience?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="472840" data-end="475720">And I said, can I go out with a survey of your patients?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="476240" data-end="478540">And he said, well, you&#8217;re not a doctor.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="478540" data-end="480500">What kind of survey do you want to send to my patients?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:01"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="480540" data-end="485220">I said, basically, one question, if you could get your treatment anywhere in the universe</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:06"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="485620" data-end="489560">and there were no rules, what special place would help heal you?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="490000" data-end="495480">In the 15 years we&#8217;ve been asking kids and adolescent young adult cancer patients, what</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:15"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="495480" data-end="497260">special place would help heal them?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:18"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="497800" data-end="500940">Never once has one of them come back and said that would be a hospital.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="501480" data-end="506680">So in the same way that he surveyed pediatric patients, Holzberg&#8217;s first step for City of</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:27"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="506680" data-end="510480">Hope&#8217;s new spiritual center was to survey the people in Orange County.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="510820" data-end="517440">My job is never to tell a patient or clinician what is right and healing for their population.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="517919" data-end="522960">It&#8217;s to ask them what is healing for their population and then get that for them.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="523680" data-end="528840">We went out to patients and families and we went out to faith leaders with a very similar</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:49"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="528840" data-end="532240">question to what we asked our pediatric patients.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="532420" data-end="534500">But it wasn&#8217;t about your healing place.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="534500" data-end="539800">It was about your family coming together in a sacred healing place.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:01"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="540620" data-end="547320">And so that&#8217;s what gave us the answers for the five faith themes and the two nature themes.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="547400" data-end="554380">The team settled on creating scenes depicting a chapel, mandir, mosque, synagogue, temple,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:15"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="554920" data-end="556840">an alpine forest, and the beach.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="557420" data-end="562080">Holzberg&#8217;s team had gone back and forth on how immersive they wanted the experience to</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="562080" data-end="562320">be.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="562320" data-end="565160">We concepted a number of different approaches.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="565940" data-end="572700">One of them was very immersive, meaning the people in the room were surrounded by imagery.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="573420" data-end="581100">Another one is what we wound up with, which is a very large screen with what then we call</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:41"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="581100" data-end="586360">alcoves, all of which contain different media in different forms.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="586560" data-end="591820">The decision ultimately came down to one factor that the theme park industry refers to as</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="591820" data-end="592860">the barf quotient.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="593100" data-end="600600">I&#8217;ve been a part of tuning the profiles of some extreme rides before, and when people</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:01"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="600600" data-end="606100">get nauseous is a thing that you&#8217;ve got to really dial down because in the ride theme</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:06"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="606100" data-end="610040">park world, you don&#8217;t want to be washing out ride vehicles every four minutes.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:11"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="610680" data-end="615140">But also in the hospital world, you&#8217;ve got different sets of challenges.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:15"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="615360" data-end="620420">You&#8217;ve got patients who might have some loss of equilibrium, might have some nausea from</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:20"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="620420" data-end="621400">medication.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="621920" data-end="625540">And we wanted to make sure we didn&#8217;t overwhelm them.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="626020" data-end="630300">On top of that, the team needed to make sure that the experience wasn&#8217;t just cool, but</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:30"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="630300" data-end="631120">felt sacred.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:32"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="631540" data-end="636680">Roger will tell you that we&#8217;re pretty nitpicky about that&#8217;s not quite right.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="636820" data-end="638100">We have to adjust it.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="638420" data-end="645380">So we&#8217;re kind of fanatically possessed with making it as real and as awesome as we could.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:45"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="645380" data-end="650680">Now, there&#8217;s no doubt that right now, using immersive reality in this situation, people</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:51"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="650680" data-end="655540">just the fact that we used it will think it&#8217;s cool, but it wasn&#8217;t meant to be cool.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="655640" data-end="656860">It was meant to be sacred.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="657440" data-end="662380">They had community leaders advising on all of the details and even went as far as to</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:02"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="662380" data-end="666780">create their own stained glass when they couldn&#8217;t find any that perfectly fit the comforting</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="666780" data-end="668720">environment they were aiming for.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:09"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="669200" data-end="672820">It looks like it could be made into original stained glass window.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="672940" data-end="674600">It&#8217;s a beautiful piece of art.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:15"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="674600" data-end="678920">But when you go in the room, it does look like we picked a stained glass from somewhere</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:19"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="678920" data-end="679640">and put it there.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:20"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="679780" data-end="688380">But that was some of the nuances of the perfection that we were going for that, you know, there&#8217;s</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:28"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="688380" data-end="693020">a lot of images of Christ that could be distressing during this time.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="693180" data-end="695600">We wanted the comforting images of Christ.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:36"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="696220" data-end="701060">City of Hope recently unveiled this space after two years of development, and patients</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:41"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="701060" data-end="703580">will be able to fully utilize the center in December.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="704020" data-end="709660">The room will be open 24-7 and on the outside of the room, it&#8217;ll show you the scene that</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="709660" data-end="711120">is currently on.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="711560" data-end="715680">But as soon as you walk in, if there&#8217;s no one else in the room, you just go push a button</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="715680" data-end="719060">and you pick the one you want and it&#8217;ll stay on for 15 minutes.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="719800" data-end="724560">The other thing that&#8217;s very cool is if you were a patient and say we were having a service</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="724560" data-end="729600">in there, if you&#8217;re a patient and you&#8217;re confined to your bed, you can turn it on from</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="729600" data-end="730760">your room and watch it.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:11"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="730760" data-end="735780">Now that Walker and Holzberg have reimagined how spiritual centers can look, they hope</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="735780" data-end="740900">more programs will adopt this immersive experience to enhance their patients&#8217; quality of care.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="741300" data-end="743920">Someone asked me that, do you think this will change the industry?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:24"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="744100" data-end="744860">And I think it will.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="745300" data-end="745860">I do.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="746040" data-end="750240">I think people will say, wow, we just didn&#8217;t think of doing it.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:30"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="750320" data-end="755000">It wasn&#8217;t that they were trying to be thoughtless or exclusionary, I just didn&#8217;t think they</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:35"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="755000" data-end="755480">thought of it.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:36"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="755540" data-end="758920">And also, you know, the technology is relatively new.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:40"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="759680" data-end="764600">You know, it&#8217;s immersive reality has been used in other cases, like Roger has used it</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:45"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="764600" data-end="768860">in children&#8217;s hospitals for immersive experiences for kids.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:49"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="769240" data-end="772560">I went to the Sphere this weekend and saw a concert.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="773100" data-end="773900">It&#8217;s unbelievable.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="774780" data-end="779500">And so what you&#8217;re seeing is technology is helping health care in a different way.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="779580" data-end="784920">This won&#8217;t be the only way it does, but I do believe it&#8217;s the first time it&#8217;s been used</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="784920" data-end="788180">in this particular circumstances in health care.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="788180" data-end="793100">You can find more information about Annette Walker, Roger Holzberg, and all of our guests</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="793100" data-end="796260">on our website, RadioHealthJournal.org.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="796560" data-end="798380">Our writer-producer is Kristen Farah.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:19"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="798580" data-end="800680">Our executive producer is Amira Zaveri.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="801000" data-end="802000">I&#8217;m Elizabeth Westfield.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:30"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="809810" data-end="814850">Coming up, the engineered diet that could defeat brain tumors, when Radio Health Journal</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:35"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="814850" data-end="815250">returns.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="817530" data-end="823230">Behold, the Colonel&#8217;s giant KFC chicken sandwich, a towering extra crispy monument</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:43"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="823230" data-end="823810">to flavor.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="824450" data-end="830930">Such a huge amount of juicy, hand-breaded KFC chicken at a pretty tiny $3.99 price for</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:51"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="830930" data-end="833250">the Colonel&#8217;s KFC chicken sandwich.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:54"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="833890" data-end="839430">I mean, $3.99 isn&#8217;t even worthy of the same epic soundtrack as the KFC chicken sandwich</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="839430" data-end="840570">for only $3.99.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:01"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="841070" data-end="843530">The Colonel lived so we could chicken.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:04"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="844110" data-end="846910">Prices and participation vary while supplies last, taxes, tips, and fees extra.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="847090" data-end="851050">I can&#8217;t believe how spotless my floors look after using the Swiffer Power Mop.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:11"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="851050" data-end="853650">No more dragging around a heavy mop and messy bucket.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:14"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="854030" data-end="856410">Now I get the same deep clean without all the work.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="856950" data-end="861110">Thanks to the powerful solution and scrubbing pad of the Swiffer Power Mop, dirt and grime</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="861110" data-end="863390">don&#8217;t stand a chance, and I don&#8217;t break a sweat.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:24"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="863910" data-end="866730">Mic drop, I mean, mop drop.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="870830" data-end="872270">A smarter way to mop.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="872650" data-end="873830">Try it or your money back.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:43"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="882780" data-end="887240">Though neurons are the cell you probably think of first when talking about the brain, did</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="887240" data-end="889960">you know they have a host of bodyguards keeping them safe?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:51"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="890500" data-end="895160">Glia are cells that provide support and protection for neurons and are a vital part of keeping</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="895160" data-end="896520">your body functioning properly.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="896920" data-end="901340">As you can imagine, cells with such a big responsibility can be destructive if they</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:01"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="901340" data-end="902100">become mutated.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:02"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="902480" data-end="907320">For example, glioblastoma, the most common type of brain cancer, is super aggressive.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="907960" data-end="912620">Many patients are given a life expectancy of one or two years after diagnosis, and that&#8217;s</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="912620" data-end="913900">with the help of treatment.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:14"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="914280" data-end="919800">In many cases, we recommend either surgery to take out tumor as much of it as possible</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:20"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="919800" data-end="921960">or a biopsy to establish a diagnosis.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:23"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="922540" data-end="927600">After surgery, patients will typically undergo standard therapies, that is a combination</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:28"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="927600" data-end="932820">of chemotherapy, a drug called temozolomide, and radiation, and that&#8217;s been our standard</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="932820" data-end="935540">treatment for almost 20 years now.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:36"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="935960" data-end="941240">And despite these treatments being around for so long, we have not really identified</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:41"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="941240" data-end="943340">better treatments for these tumors.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="943920" data-end="948100">That&#8217;s Dr. Wajid Al-Hallou, a neurosurgeon and assistant professor in the Department</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:48"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="948100" data-end="950560">of Neurosurgery at the University of Michigan.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:51"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="951140" data-end="955940">Despite being able to remove much of the tumor in some cases, Al-Hallou says it&#8217;s never</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="955940" data-end="958160">enough to outrun the cancer&#8217;s rapid growth.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="958680" data-end="962620">Sometimes we can achieve something called a gross total resection, meaning we have removed</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:03"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="962620" data-end="964420">everything that is visible on the MRI.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="965340" data-end="969520">But the reality is, even if we achieve this extensive resection, the tumor is actually</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="969520" data-end="970180">beyond that.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="970300" data-end="975720">It has traveled centimeters into the brain, and so even though surgery has shown to help</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="975720" data-end="981660">improve prognosis, survival, and quality of life, etc., it does not cure the tumors.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="982360" data-end="986180">Glioblastomas are so hard to treat partly because no two tumors are the same.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:27"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="986740" data-end="991020">There are significant genetic differences, which makes it tough to develop a drug that</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="991020" data-end="992740">would be effective for multiple patients.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="993380" data-end="997540">However, the one factor that these tumors have in common is that they all need to consume</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="997540" data-end="999800">energy in order to survive and spread.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:41"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1000540" data-end="1004420">And though there&#8217;s been a lot of research around cancer, Al-Hallou says the one area</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1004420" data-end="1009560">that&#8217;s been overlooked is what these cancerous cells use and how they metabolize energy.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1010180" data-end="1014100">Al-Hallou and a team of researchers sought out to uncover these mysteries with their</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:54"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1014100" data-end="1016020">new paper published in the journal Nature.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1016620" data-end="1020360">They had guessed that glucose was a good place to start their search since all living</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1020360" data-end="1021120">cells use it.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:01"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1021340" data-end="1026819">It&#8217;s a common source of carbon, it&#8217;s how our cells run most of their metabolic processes.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1027560" data-end="1033160">But the reality is, one cell in the body may use glucose to do one thing, so your brain</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1033160" data-end="1037920">may use glucose to make neurotransmitters, your liver may make enzymes.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:18"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1037920" data-end="1040440">But we don&#8217;t know what the cancer cell is using it for.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1040560" data-end="1044900">So if we know what that cancer cell is using that glucose for, then we can attack that</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1044900" data-end="1045240">pathway.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1045400" data-end="1046619">We can block that pathway.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:27"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1047160" data-end="1049500">This research project is unique in two ways.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:30"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1049800" data-end="1053460">The first is that it&#8217;s a deep dive into the metabolic processes of tumors.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:34"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1053920" data-end="1058540">And second is that it brought together various teams of researchers to contribute their expertise.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1059340" data-end="1063380">Glioma metabolism has been studied in the past, but not in the way that we have done</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:43"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1063380" data-end="1064020">it as a group.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1064020" data-end="1069600">I think what we&#8217;ve realized in the brain tumor world is that the old-fashioned model of one</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1069600" data-end="1072620">scientist discovering things on their own just doesn&#8217;t really work.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1073000" data-end="1078560">You need people who have significant knowledge and expertise in every specialty to make</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1078560" data-end="1079080">things work.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1079500" data-end="1085080">So you need metabolomics experts, you need bioinformatics and engineering experts, you</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1085080" data-end="1087200">need neurosurgeons, you need radiation oncologists.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1087280" data-end="1091520">Without that, you&#8217;ll never really get to the real truth about these tumors.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:12"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1092400" data-end="1095380">And importantly, you won&#8217;t be able to impact patients&#8217; lives.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1095900" data-end="1097760">The group used two methods in their study.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:18"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1098060" data-end="1102360">They started with isotope tracing, which is a way to follow a certain nutrient, in this</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1102360" data-end="1104220">case glucose, through parts of the body.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1104940" data-end="1109000">Al-Hallouz says that while this is a common technique, it hasn&#8217;t been widely utilized</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:29"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1109000" data-end="1110560">in glioblastoma research.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1111120" data-end="1115280">The second advancement the team was able to utilize was seeing how the tumors acted in</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:35"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1115280" data-end="1116120">human patients.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1116640" data-end="1121020">And most of the time when people study glioma, we&#8217;re often studying it in a cell line in</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:41"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1121020" data-end="1123000">a dish or in a mouse model.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1123580" data-end="1127180">And these are important ways for us to study disease, especially brain tumors.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:48"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1127620" data-end="1132800">But to really know the truth about how a brain tumor behaves in a patient, in a human being,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1133160" data-end="1134720">we need to study it in patients.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1134940" data-end="1140040">And that&#8217;s really the major leap that we made, is that we were able to study in patients</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1140040" data-end="1145500">and we&#8217;re able to compare the tumor to the brain of that patient.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:06"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1146040" data-end="1147580">So that&#8217;s what was really unique.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1147580" data-end="1151940">And that gave us the opportunity to make these amazing observations and discoveries that</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:12"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1151940" data-end="1152740">I&#8217;d never seen before.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1153200" data-end="1156760">All of their experiments were first done in mouse models, then they were able to give</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1156760" data-end="1161360">human patients glucose during resection surgeries and send a sample of the removed tumor to</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1161360" data-end="1162400">their lab for inspection.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:23"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1162940" data-end="1167060">Their research revealed an exciting finding of how the cancer cells are obtaining and</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:27"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1167060" data-end="1167920">using glucose.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:28"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1168480" data-end="1173960">The cancer cell&#8217;s priority is to grow really fast, divide, and invade into the brain.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:34"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1174280" data-end="1176560">So it has to do a lot with very limited resources.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1177060" data-end="1182540">So it shuttles a lot of its glucose to making these purines and pyrimidines to help the</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:43"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1182540" data-end="1183080">tumors grow.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1183500" data-end="1187560">They also need other things to maintain their cellular processes and to survive.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:48"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1188360" data-end="1191780">And so they end up, instead of making them, they end up essentially like stealing them</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1191780" data-end="1192460">from the environment.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1193120" data-end="1194740">So it ends up using less energy.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1195020" data-end="1196140">You don&#8217;t have to make it from scratch.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1196560" data-end="1198320">You essentially borrow it from somebody else.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1198700" data-end="1202760">Meaning that the cancer cells are stealing the glucose from the other healthy cells in</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:03"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1202760" data-end="1204920">the brain that need it to carry out their functions.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:06"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1205520" data-end="1210100">Al-Hallou and the team found that the tumor uses the sugar to create an amino acid called</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1210100" data-end="1212320">serine, which fuels its rapid growth.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1212680" data-end="1216380">That was an important discovery in our patient tumor samples.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1216980" data-end="1221220">And then the follow-up question was, now that we&#8217;ve discovered that these tumors require</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1221220" data-end="1225500">specific amino acids but don&#8217;t make it, can we starve them?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1225660" data-end="1228600">Can we starve these tumors of this essential nutrient?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:29"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1229020" data-end="1233660">The second part of that question is, even if you are able to starve the cancer, will</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:34"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1233660" data-end="1234080">it matter?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:35"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1234740" data-end="1236560">Will it impact the tumor&#8217;s function?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1237200" data-end="1238000">And the answer was yes.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1238100" data-end="1244140">At least in our animal models, the answer is, if you starve these mouse models of serine</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:45"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1244640" data-end="1247120">specifically, the tumors don&#8217;t grow as fast.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:48"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1247660" data-end="1249600">So how do we restrict serine?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1249720" data-end="1250860">That&#8217;s a difficult question.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:51"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1250980" data-end="1255080">It&#8217;s not something that you can easily go to the grocery store and not buy the product</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1255080" data-end="1255660">that has serine.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1255780" data-end="1257800">Serine unfortunately is in lots of things.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:58"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1258020" data-end="1260060">So it&#8217;s not easy to do that on your own.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1260480" data-end="1265300">The group is now collaborating with a company that&#8217;s manufacturing specific dietary products</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1265300" data-end="1267220">that don&#8217;t have any serine in them.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1267760" data-end="1271780">Another option the team is looking at is developing a drug that can block the serine</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:12"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1271780" data-end="1273320">from ever getting to the cancer cell.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:14"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1273860" data-end="1277480">Restricting diet in patients is challenging because you&#8217;re talking about a patient who</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1277480" data-end="1278620">has a very bad tumor.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:19"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1279200" data-end="1282980">You&#8217;re asking them to completely change their lifestyle and their diet to help prevent the</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:23"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1282980" data-end="1283640">tumor from growing.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:24"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1283840" data-end="1285980">And I&#8217;m sure a lot of patients want to do it, but it&#8217;s not easy to do.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1286330" data-end="1290220">It&#8217;s something that we worry may be hard to adhere to in every patient.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1290640" data-end="1295480">But if we can find better ways to block the use of serine in the cells or the transport</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:35"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1295480" data-end="1298300">of serine to the cells, it may actually be more effective.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1299100" data-end="1301600">Which gives the team a lot more work to do moving forward.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:42"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1301860" data-end="1308500">Even though this is a huge, huge accomplishment to find how these brain tumors consume energy,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:49"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1308660" data-end="1313040">what they use glucose for, that serine is a potential vulnerable target.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:54"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1313540" data-end="1314120">It&#8217;s not the end.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:54"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1314120" data-end="1316220">The next step is the easy step.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1316400" data-end="1318300">Can we restrict serine and glycine?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1318640" data-end="1320340">Can we block serine and glycine?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:01"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1320820" data-end="1321620">Our work continues.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:02"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1321720" data-end="1325480">We&#8217;re trying to find other amino acids, other nutrients that these tumors need.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:06"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1325920" data-end="1326980">So these studies continue.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1327100" data-end="1328980">We&#8217;re trying to find the next thing.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:09"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1329400" data-end="1334300">And the ultimate goal is we are not going to rest until we find something that is effective</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:14"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1334300" data-end="1334900">in these patients.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:15"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1335440" data-end="1339540">You can find more information about Dr. Wajid Al-Hallou and all of our guests on our website,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:20"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1340120" data-end="1341080">RadioHealthJournal.org.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1341440" data-end="1343140">Our writer-producer is Kristen Farrah.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play 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story.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1389730" data-end="1397510">Dear love of my life, we were on the 12B bus this morning when I caught a whiff, a scent</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:18"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1397510" data-end="1401370">so fresh, so life-changing, I had to find its source.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1401910" data-end="1405710">Alas, I didn&#8217;t know if you were the woman in the pink freshly washed cardigan or the</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1405710" data-end="1410270">retired mailman next to me, but I knew one of you was my soulmate.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1410990" data-end="1413550">Ah, the scent of Gain Fling&#8217;s.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:34"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1413870" data-end="1416470">Try Gain Fling&#8217;s with OxiBoost and Febreze.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1416810" data-end="1419050">You know that expression, put a little spring in your step?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1419410" data-end="1423350">Well, whoever said it must have been talking about GlideStep hands-free sketcher slip-ins.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1423630" data-end="1428350">Because with GlideStep, you get a pillow-like soft landing, then an explosive takeoff.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:49"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1428510" data-end="1432250">It makes walking feel effortless, so springy it&#8217;s almost like you&#8217;re floating.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1432250" data-end="1436610">And speaking of effortless, have you tried hands-free sketcher slip-ins technology?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1437030" data-end="1440130">Well, GlideStep sketcher slip-ins has got it, and you need it.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1440390" data-end="1444310">Just step in, no hands necessary, and instantly your shoes are on.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1444530" data-end="1449030">No bending down, no touching, it takes putting on your shoes to a new level of convenience.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:09"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1449490" data-end="1453670">Whether you&#8217;re running errands, walking the dog, or on your feet all day at work, GlideStep</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:14"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" 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data-start="1468810" data-end="1473390">Put some major spring in your step with GlideStep hands-free sketcher slip-ins at a Skechers</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1473390" data-end="1476550">store, skechers.com, or wherever stylish footwear is sold.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1479410" data-end="1481070">Medical Notes this week.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:42"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1481510" data-end="1484890">You may soon be able to detect skin cancer at home.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:45"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1485350" data-end="1490110">The ExoPatch is a silicone product that uses microneedles to pick up DNA information from</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1490110" data-end="1490610">our cells.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:51"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1490950" data-end="1493970">It uses this data to detect cancerous fragments.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1494610" data-end="1499550">When tested on mice, the ExoPatch was able to specifically locate the cancerous DNA.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1500310" data-end="1504790">The scientists are now looking to do a pilot study in humans before moving into clinical</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1504790" data-end="1505390">trials.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:06"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1505930" data-end="1509590">The research is published in the journal Biosensors and Bioelectronics.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1510450" data-end="1513790">A healthy childhood may be more important than you think.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:14"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1514490" data-end="1519270">Research in the European Journal of Pediatrics reveals that your habits as a kid impact your</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:19"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1519270" data-end="1520770">physical health later in life.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1521130" data-end="1526250">Fitness habits are hard to break, so being unhealthy and inactive in early life is most</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1526250" data-end="1527710">likely how you&#8217;ll be as an adult.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:28"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1528110" data-end="1532270">The researchers are also looking into how this impacts obesity and heart disease.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1532950" data-end="1535050">We need better ALS detection.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:36"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1535730" data-end="1540910">The degenerative nervous system disease is estimated to affect 400,000 people across</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:41"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1540910" data-end="1542130">the globe by 2040.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:43"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1542690" data-end="1547430">Sadly, there&#8217;s not currently a diagnostic test, but researchers have been working on</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1547430" data-end="1551450">identifying a marker that can catch ALS years before symptoms appear.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1551910" data-end="1556490">The research, published in Nature Medicine, shows that specific proteins in blood can</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1556490" data-end="1558650">detect the disease with significant accuracy.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1559250" data-end="1564310">This would give researchers time to find effective treatments before ALS becomes debilitating.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1565150" data-end="1568990">And finally, is binge-watching TV good for your mental recall?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1569570" data-end="1573530">Binge-watching has become a popular way to consume your favorite show, and researchers</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:14"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1573530" data-end="1575030">say it may have some benefits.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:15"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1575410" data-end="1579990">A new study in Acta Psychologica reveals that people who engage in marathon viewing</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:20"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1579990" data-end="1584510">are more likely to remember stories and engage with the content even after watching it through</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1584510" data-end="1585070">imagination.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1585850" data-end="1587670">And that&#8217;s Medical Notes this week.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:28"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1588050" data-end="1589630">I&#8217;m Maayan Vastabetancourt.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:30"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1589950" data-end="1590590">You hear that?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1592570" data-end="1596070">That&#8217;s Mike sleeping soundly on a Sunday night.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1597470" data-end="1599350">That&#8217;s because Mike was smart this time.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1599350" data-end="1605010">He took Zequel Ultra to fall asleep fast, stay asleep longer, and get the deeply restorative</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:45"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1605010" data-end="1605770">sleep he needs.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:46"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1606030" data-end="1609010">So now he wakes up refreshed and ready to conquer Mondays.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1609750" data-end="1611310">Let&#8217;s do this, Monday.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1611770" data-end="1612590">Zequel Ultra.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1613010" data-end="1614970">Not for colds, just for sleep.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1615310" data-end="1617130">Really great sleep.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1617410" data-end="1618010">Use as directed.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:58"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1618190" data-end="1619110">Keep out of reach of children.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1619790" data-end="1622430">Oh, could this vintage store be any cuter?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:03"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1622570" data-end="1622890">Right?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:03"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1623090" data-end="1623910">And the best part?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:04"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1624050" data-end="1625050">They accept Discover.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1625450" data-end="1626150">Accept Discover?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:06"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1626330" data-end="1627890">In a little place like this?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1627890" data-end="1629350">I don&#8217;t think so, Jennifer.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1629630" data-end="1630430">Oh, yeah, huh.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:11"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1630770" data-end="1632630">Discover&#8217;s accepted where I like to shop.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1632790" data-end="1634650">Come on, baby, get with the times.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:15"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1635330" data-end="1635850">Right.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1636110" data-end="1638230">So we shouldn&#8217;t get the parachute pants?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:19"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1638630" data-end="1639870">These are making a comeback.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1641170" data-end="1642210">I think.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:23"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1642810" data-end="1646310">Discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:27"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1646830" data-end="1649290">Based on the February 2025 Nielsen Report.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:32"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 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									<p data-start="491" data-end="515"><strong data-start="491" data-end="513">Major Takeaways:</strong></p><ul data-start="516" data-end="946"><li data-start="516" data-end="654"><p data-start="518" data-end="654">Accurate ADHD diagnosis requires collaboration between psychiatrists, teachers, and parents, as symptoms often mimic other conditions.</p></li><li data-start="655" data-end="790"><p data-start="657" data-end="790">Medications remain the most effective ADHD treatment, but therapy and parent support can further help children navigate challenges.</p></li><li data-start="791" data-end="946"><p data-start="793" data-end="946">Core childhood wounds, or “primal wounds,” can be reframed into strengths, helping individuals turn trauma into resilience and healthier communication.</p></li></ul><h2>Turning Trauma Into Strength: ADHD Treatment and the Power of Primal Wounds</h2><p>You&#8217;re listening to <a href="https://www.urbancitypodcast.com/radio-health-journal-8-29-2025-short-kids-are-being-given-growth-hormones-is-it-safe/">Radio Health Journal</a>, the trusted news source for medicine, science and technology. I&#8217;m Elizabeth Westfield. I&#8217;m Mayan Vasta Betancourt.</p><p>And I&#8217;m Greg Johnson. This week, how to turn your trauma into your biggest asset. Your past is not your problem.</p><p>It actually becomes your superpower. My framework actually flips the script entirely and says, there&#8217;s nothing wrong with you. Let&#8217;s embrace it and take it and do something with it.</p><p>But first, why ADHD treatment needs a team-based approach. Even if it&#8217;s the best medicine and it&#8217;s really helpful for this kid, if that medicine doesn&#8217;t get into that kid&#8217;s mouth and into the body, it&#8217;s not going to be helpful. All that and more this week on Radio Health Journal.</p><p>Do Crohn&#8217;s disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms keep coming back? Tremphaya, gaselkomab, may help, with rapid remission achieved at 12 weeks and lasting clinical remission at one year. Some even saw visible improvement of their intestinal lining at 12 weeks and one year. Tremphaya is a prescription medicine used to treat adults with moderately to severely active Crohn&#8217;s disease and adults with moderately to severely active ulcerative colitis.</p><p>Serious allergic reactions and increased risk of infections and liver problems may occur. Before treatment, your doctor should check you for infections and tuberculosis. Tell your doctor if you have an infection, flu-like symptoms, or if you need a vaccine.</p><p>Healing is possible with Tremphaya. Approximately 3 out of 10 patients were in endoscopic remission at one year, based on areas visualized on colonoscopy, which may not represent the deeper bowel layer or entire GI tract. Individual results may vary.</p><p>Ask your doctor about Tremphaya today. Call 1-800-526-7736 to learn more or visit Tremphayaradio.com. Though many of us are familiar with attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, or ADHD, the journey through treatment isn&#8217;t as straightforward as you may assume. Dr. Bradley Peterson, a child and adolescent psychiatrist, says the very first obstacle families face is getting an accurate diagnosis.</p><p>He says that there are various other conditions that mimic similar symptoms, which can lead patients down a rabbit hole of misdiagnoses. Maybe the most common thing is kids who are very anxious. They can be quite fidgety because they&#8217;re anxious.</p><p>And when you&#8217;re anxious about things, like in a classroom, whether the kids are looking at you or thinking badly of you, or the teacher&#8217;s thinking badly about you, that can absorb your attention and distract you from paying attention to what you need to pay attention to in class, what the teacher&#8217;s saying. Most psychiatric and mental health and behavioral problems, in fact, have some impact on our ability to pay attention and stay focused. It&#8217;s a pretty nonspecific symptom, and so a lot of things can look like ADHD or be confused with it.</p><p>Peterson is chief of the Division of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry and co-director of the Behavioral Health Institute at Children&#8217;s Hospital Los Angeles. There are three core symptoms of ADHD, hyperactivity, inattention, and impulsivity. When people think about ADHD, their first image is that really hyperactive type.</p><p>And it&#8217;s usually the stereotype of a little boy who&#8217;s sort of all over the place physically. What&#8217;s happened over the years is it&#8217;s gotten really convoluted. And when people have inattention and they&#8217;re more subtle, like we often see with women and girls who have ADHD, they tend to be under identified and less likely to be seen by others.</p><p>That&#8217;s Dr. Andrew Kahn, associate director of expertise and strategic design at Understood, a nonprofit for learning and thinking differences. Their new interactive tool called Through My Eyes offers users the ability to understand how neurodivergent kids think. And as you navigate through the simulation, what you commonly see is that kids who are going through their day-to-day lives are experiencing things that we don&#8217;t always see.</p><p>So as the simulation goes on, it is narrated by the kids themselves. We also see through Through My Eyes videos where we have nine different kids talking about their life experiences with learning and thinking differences and being neurodivergent. And I think that what you see in that situation is that the experiences as they&#8217;re narrated to you by the kids themselves gives you insight into things that you wouldn&#8217;t have seen otherwise.</p><p>Kahn says the program&#8217;s goal is to help neurotypical people truly understand the obstacles kids with ADHD face. Many of the tasks are ones that may seem easy to others, like brushing your teeth or tying your shoes. People get lost in the behavior that they see.</p><p>So if a child has, let&#8217;s say, ADHD as our example, and they&#8217;re feeling really challenged by an activity, what you&#8217;re likely to see is behavior. So people are going to say, oh, that child&#8217;s out of their seat, or they&#8217;re refusing to do a task. And in turn, people draw assumptions that that kid is lazy or defiant or unmotivated.</p><p>And what they can&#8217;t see is that that child is trying to filter out all of that stimulation, trying to focus their attention or navigate their energies. And those kind of misunderstandings can really lead to a lot of difficulty. Like being reprimanded or taken out of the classroom without having their struggles ever addressed.</p><p>However, the necessary support can only come after a kid has gotten an accurate diagnosis. The ideal medical professional for this is a child psychiatrist, but they can be hard to find and even harder to access. Thankfully, Peterson says teachers are a valuable resource in this journey.</p><p>Teachers can compare this child&#8217;s behavior and their ability to stay focused on a task with all the other kids in the class, all the other kids that they&#8217;ve experienced in their teaching careers. Teachers are very, very good sources of information. Once that diagnosis is made, the next hurdle is finding the right treatment.</p><p>Every case is different, but Peterson says there are generally two major categories of treatment, medication and therapy. And it can be hard to access either one or both of those. I would say that typically, in general, accessing really good psychotherapy and behavioral therapy is much harder, much harder.</p><p>And even when you can access it, it&#8217;s very difficult to gauge the skill set of the therapist and the care provider. Someone who calls themselves a therapist, not all of them are the same. Calling yourself a therapist doesn&#8217;t make you one and it doesn&#8217;t make you a good one.</p><p>So discerning who&#8217;s good and really qualified is really difficult and important. Which is where having a referral from a trusted medical professional can be extremely helpful. On the other hand, medications can be a bit easier to get right because Peterson says many pediatricians know how to prescribe the most common ones for ADHD.</p><p>That&#8217;s especially good news since his 2024 paper shows that drugs tend to be the best treatment for this condition. About 80% of kids will benefit from that first trial of medicine. And it helps not only with the core symptoms of ADHD, but with other problems as well.</p><p>So just global impressions of how the child&#8217;s doing clinically, it helps with that pretty dramatically. It also helps with other problems like disruptive behaviors. You know, some kids with ADHD, because they&#8217;re impulsive, they can be more aggressive than other kids.</p><p>They can have trouble following rules and those sorts of things. And medicines generally help with those problems as well. So they&#8217;re helpful not only for the core symptoms of ADHD, but the other kinds of problems that often come along with ADHD.</p><p>So the benefits are substantial and most kids will benefit pretty dramatically from medicine. Peterson&#8217;s systematic review, published in the journal Pediatrics, looked at how effective various interventions are on the symptoms of ADHD. And though drugs are at the top of that list, they do still have side effects that can deter some patients.</p><p>They can cause appetite suppression, sleep issues and irritability. But Peterson says it&#8217;s worth taking the time to find the one that works the best for each person. There are two major classes of drugs to choose from, stimulant and non-stimulant.</p><p>Peterson says stimulants are the most common and are widely helpful. But there are many reasons why parents choose to give their kids one type over the other. I would say some families and parents in particular have a conceptual, ethical, even moral bias against stimulant medications.</p><p>They&#8217;re afraid that they&#8217;re addictive, which when used appropriately and when prescribed by an experienced clinician, they are not addicting. But parents fear that they could be. They think that somehow those medicines will change brain structure and function when in fact, our studies suggest that they don&#8217;t.</p><p>And if they do, it actually improves brain structure and function. So there are a lot of biases, especially parents will come in with. Sometimes prescribers will.</p><p>I would say most commonly it might be some pediatricians are reluctant to prescribe stimulants based on misinformation and some of the same biases that misinformed parents can have. That&#8217;s not to say that every patient will respond better to stimulants. It&#8217;s truly a case by case basis.</p><p>There&#8217;s no right course of treatment, only that medication is an important part of that journey. Peterson&#8217;s paper also revealed that supporting the parents of kids with ADHD can be very helpful. There are various types of interventions his review looked at, and many of them turned out to be worthwhile.</p><p>The intervention that most clinicians in the field believe help kids with ADHD, especially kids with ADHD who also have disruptive behaviors, trouble following rules. Maybe they&#8217;re aggressive, so disruptive behaviors. Most people feel that something called parent management training.</p><p>That&#8217;s what I refer to it as. It has it goes by a number of other names, but what it involves descriptively is helping parents learn the principles of behavioral management for their child to help with consequences for behaviors that you want to reinforce, like following rules and doing homework and that sort of thing. And discouraging behaviors that you would prefer not to be there, like aggression, verbal or physical aggression and how to deal with that.</p><p>So you help the parents become really the best behavioral therapist for their kid that you can possibly find because no one knows their child better than a parent. Since no two studies involved exactly the same parent intervention, Peterson&#8217;s team lumped them into one category and ran a bunch of statistics to see if as a group, parent support was effective for helping ADHD symptoms in kids. And regardless of which intervention was used, they found that this support can be a major benefit.</p><p>What came as a big surprise for the research team was what they found when they paired multiple of these helpful interventions together. Most people, most clinicians and most parents believe instinctively that if medications help and psychotherapies or parent support helps, well, one plus one will equal two. And so if medications help some, but you need more help, well, let&#8217;s add parent support to it or psychotherapy for the child.</p><p>And a number of studies have tested this, whether combination treatment like that is better than a single intervention alone. And what is surprising is we didn&#8217;t find evidence of the case. So one plus one here doesn&#8217;t necessarily equal two.</p><p>That doesn&#8217;t mean that combining therapies will never be effective. It just means that on average, when looking at an overall group, there&#8217;s no evidence that it&#8217;s beneficial. Individual kids still may find a combination of therapies helpful.</p><p>And Peterson says that a good clinician will be able to see which are best for their specific patient. And possibly the most important part of this journey, regardless of which type of therapy is used, is that the choices are made in partnership with the medical professionals, parents and child. They have to buy in, know why this is helpful, and the parents need to buy in.</p><p>It all needs to be a team-based approach. Otherwise, it&#8217;s not going to work. Because even if it&#8217;s the best medicine and it&#8217;s really helpful for this kid, if that medicine doesn&#8217;t get into that kid&#8217;s mouth and into the body, it&#8217;s not going to be helpful.</p><p>You can find more information about Dr. Bradley Peterson, Dr. Andrew Kahn, and all of our guests on our website, RadioHealthJournal.org. Our writer-producer is Kristen Farah. Our executive producer is Amir Zaveri. I&#8217;m Elizabeth Westfield.</p><p>Coming up, rewiring your brain for healthier communication, when RadioHealth Journal returns. As we get older, we may feel strong and healthy, but no matter how healthy you feel, your immune system weakens with age. That&#8217;s where vaccines come in.</p><p>Vaccines help train and strengthen your immune response to fight off certain respiratory illnesses. And that&#8217;s why the CDC recommends eligible adults 50 or older or those with certain health conditions get vaccinated. 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Dr. Michaela Renee Johnson believes these patterns stem from our core beliefs she calls primal wounds that begin in childhood.</p><p>And it doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that we had a bad childhood or some major traumatic event. It&#8217;s just simple, small, little things that can lead us to formulate these things. And there are seven of them.</p><p>And I&#8217;ll give you an example. So it might be I&#8217;m not good enough. Perhaps you&#8217;re just not doing well in school as a young person.</p><p>And so you start to tell yourself, I&#8217;m not good enough. As a teenager, it becomes I&#8217;m never going to be good enough. I&#8217;m never going to make the basketball team.</p><p>I&#8217;m never going to achieve what I want to achieve or get that job that I want. And then as an adult, you paradoxically pick out people and situations that affirm that belief. And the reason is because it&#8217;s actually comfortable.</p><p>It&#8217;s actually safer to choose someone that is going to invite that situation into your life than it is to do something different because we&#8217;ve dealt with it and lived it our whole lives. Johnson is a psychotherapist and author of Seven Primal Wounds. The seven wounds include feeling insignificant, inadequate, damaged, powerless, incapable, undeserving and like an outsider.</p><p>And though these seem to be negative emotions, Johnson says having these innate feelings is very normal. It&#8217;s essentially your mind&#8217;s version of touching a hot stove and then making sure that never happens again. So instead of trying to get rid of this protective mechanism, Johnson argues that we need to embrace it and learn how to make it our own personal superpower.</p><p>We inherently know when we&#8217;re walking into relationships, they could hurt us. And so we&#8217;re always looking for the potential threat. That&#8217;s not a bad thing.</p><p>That means we&#8217;re working very well. It means our brain is doing exactly what it is supposed to do. But just like the hot stove situation, it doesn&#8217;t mean we stop cooking.</p><p>Right. Like it doesn&#8217;t mean we can never use the stove because we&#8217;ve gotten burned once. So this is what the book&#8217;s about.</p><p>It&#8217;s really exciting. It&#8217;s actually teaching people that you&#8217;re not broken. You&#8217;re doing great, but you probably could benefit from learning about your activations and what&#8217;s causing them so that you can disempower it and have healthy relationships moving forward.</p><p>Johnson says each wound comes with its own unique triggers and characteristics. So, for example, if my friends don&#8217;t invite me to go out on Friday night because I don&#8217;t have the I am an outsider wound, I probably don&#8217;t care. I&#8217;m like, cool, I&#8217;m going to go do I&#8217;m going to go for a hike.</p><p>I&#8217;m going to go whatever. Like, it&#8217;s not going to bother me. But if I feel unchosen for something, then that might have a much deeper impact.</p><p>Which is why understanding which wound you have is crucial to controlling how you want to respond in certain situations. What&#8217;s interesting is that Johnson says in many cases, whatever your core belief is will be what drives you later in life. So the powerless wound is going to go out to do something that they might choose something where they&#8217;re very empowered, right, where they&#8217;re in a position of power or they&#8217;ve they might choose something because of their bleeding heart nature, where they&#8217;re, you know, working in a role that they&#8217;re helping others.</p><p>However, they might also pick a relationship with a very needy partner and that&#8217;s going to quickly build resentment and frustration. Like, why are they so needy? Why are they constantly needing me? Even though they actually sought that out because it&#8217;s their wound and what they know and what they want to attach to. And this does play a lot into attachment theory.</p><p>But in our work and in our decision making processes, sometimes we&#8217;ll say yes to things from the wounded lens that we should be saying no to. Johnson says if someone&#8217;s unaware of how their primal wound is causing them to react, it can draw them into a harmful cycle. However, her research has found that when used with intention, these core beliefs can still act as a protection without impeding on the rest of your life.</p><p>We can actually rewire our brain. There is tons of research that is coming out, including my own, that is showing you can actually rewire these primal pathways. You can choose different.</p><p>And this is the hot stove analogy. You can touch the hot stove, go, dang, that was hot and still cook on the stove because you can learn how to embrace it with a different mindset, embrace it with a different set of plans for how you&#8217;re going to navigate if it&#8217;s hot. Right.</p><p>And once you know that, you can actually use your best skill set ever as your superpower. Your past is not your problem. It actually becomes your superpower.</p><p>And so that&#8217;s the beautiful part of primal wounds. It&#8217;s not negative at all. It&#8217;s actually really positive focused.</p><p>It&#8217;s taking what is your human emotional survival that a lot of work has not been exposing and turning it into something that you can actually look at and call out and have a conversation with. These conversations will probably look different depending on which part of yourself becomes activated. Johnson says that the issue she sees most in couples she works with is that they&#8217;re constantly triggering each other without resolving any of the problems.</p><p>We can&#8217;t be constantly wounding one another without repairing it. Otherwise, we&#8217;re walking around with a shield. So that&#8217;s when people say we don&#8217;t talk anymore.</p><p>You know, we stonewall, we disengage, all that kind of stuff. So instead of automatically reacting like you normally would in a tense situation, Johnson says you should pause. Give yourself a breath to realize how you want to naturally respond and ask yourself if that reaction will be helpful to your end goal.</p><p>It&#8217;s very easy to become defensive in arguments and want to blame the other person. In fact, you can know all the mental health tools for positive communication, but without mindfulness and intention, those tools can easily become ammunition. A hammer is a weapon or it&#8217;s a tool, depending on how you&#8217;re using it.</p><p>So I really teach them like we need to think about tools a little differently because if you&#8217;re swinging a hammer when you&#8217;re ticked off, it&#8217;s probably not an effective tool. It&#8217;s a weapon. Right.</p><p>So that&#8217;s kind of the thing is really recognizing what&#8217;s going to work for your wound, how to disempower it by calling it out. And frankly, what I see more often than not is we really like to put expectations on our partner. And I heard a great phrase from somebody just yesterday.</p><p>They said expectations are premeditated resentments and the partner is never going to deliver on the repair because they don&#8217;t know how to do it. They&#8217;re not you. They&#8217;re not in your body.</p><p>And so the biggest fatal mistake I see is expecting our partner to do the next right thing. We have to do the next right thing to fix ourselves, to help ourselves, to improve and stop the pattern. There are a few ways that Johnson recommends getting familiar with your primal wound.</p><p>For some people, the scariest part of this work happens when they have to start putting each exercise into practice. The undeservers, right, they love to be yes people. They will say yes, even if they are completely expended and exhausted and don&#8217;t have a yes in them.</p><p>They will say yes, they will take it on. So the undeservers, what they might work on is, for example, saying, while I would love to pick up your kids from school for you, I actually can&#8217;t do that. Thank you for understanding.</p><p>So this is a rewire, right? What my undeservers love to do is they love to say either they&#8217;ll say, no, I&#8217;m so sorry. I can&#8217;t do that. I&#8217;m so sorry.</p><p>I would love to. But I just really I&#8217;m so sorry. Right.</p><p>And they&#8217;re just completely living in that. I am not deserving of having my own time or being able to say no. Right.</p><p>So for that example, what we might say is I appreciate that you&#8217;ve asked me and I can&#8217;t do that today. Thank you for understanding. No apologies, no undeserver narrative, just going to take time for myself because I deserve it.</p><p>I deserve to have this time. Each exercise is custom to every wound and how it manifests in each individual&#8217;s life. If you&#8217;re wondering where to start, Johnson offers a free quiz on our website, 7primalwounds.com. You can find more information about Dr. Michaela Johnson and all of our guests on our website, RadioHealthJournal.org. Our writer-producer is Kristen Farah.</p><p>Our production manager is Jason Dickey. I&#8217;m Greg Johnson. And I&#8217;m Kristen Farah.</p><p>Radio Health Journal returns in just a moment. 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