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		<title>Diddy Begins Federal Prison Sentence in New Jersey After Guilty Verdict</title>
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									<p data-start="258" data-end="567"> </p><p data-start="180" data-end="204"> </p><p data-start="180" data-end="204"><strong data-start="180" data-end="202">Major Takeaways:</strong></p><ul data-start="205" data-end="643"><li data-start="205" data-end="328"><p data-start="207" data-end="328">Diddy officially began serving his 50-month federal prison sentence at Fort Dix, a low-security facility in New Jersey.</p></li><li data-start="329" data-end="472"><p data-start="331" data-end="472">The mogul’s conviction for transporting women across state lines for prostitution marked a dramatic downfall from his entertainment empire.</p></li><li data-start="473" data-end="643"><p data-start="475" data-end="643">His business ventures and public reputation have taken a major hit, while his legal team plans his next steps, including potential appeals and rehabilitation efforts.</p></li></ul><h2 data-start="258" data-end="567">Diddy Begins Federal Prison Sentence in New Jersey After Guilty Verdict</h2><p data-start="258" data-end="567">Sean “<a href="https://www.urbancitypodcast.com/diddys-day-in-court-the-hip-hop-titan-facing-his-toughest-battle-yet/">Diddy</a>” Combs, one of the most recognizable names in hip hop and entertainment, has officially begun serving his federal prison sentence at a low security facility in New Jersey. The move marks a stunning fall from grace for the media mogul who once defined the sound, style, and swagger of a generation.</p><p data-start="569" data-end="805">For decades, Diddy represented power, wealth, and influence not just in music but across fashion, liquor, and television. Now he’s trading designer suits and studio sessions for a federal jumpsuit and the daily structure of prison life.</p><p data-start="807" data-end="1070">It’s a story that feels almost unreal. Diddy, the self proclaimed “Bad Boy for Life,” is now inmate number 91205 at a federal institution in New Jersey. For a man who built his legacy on the image of control, luxury, and power, this is the harshest kind of reset.</p><h2 data-start="1072" data-end="1103">From the Penthouse to Prison</h2><p data-start="1105" data-end="1317">It’s been a long and messy road for Diddy. <a href="https://www.urbancitypodcast.com/federal-appeals-court-upholds-83-million-defamation-verdict-against-donald-trump-in-e-jean-carroll-case/">Federal</a> investigators had been circling him for months before the indictment dropped. When the case finally hit the courtroom, it shook the entire entertainment world.</p><p data-start="1319" data-end="1648">Diddy faced multiple charges including racketeering conspiracy, transportation for the purpose of prostitution, and violations under the Mann Act. The prosecution built its case around witness statements, travel records, and allegations of manipulation and abuse that tore through the glamorous image he spent decades crafting.</p><p data-start="1650" data-end="1925">In July 2025, a federal jury found him guilty on two counts of transporting women across state lines for prostitution. The more serious charges, including racketeering and <a href="https://www.urbancitypodcast.com/florida-man-bobby-mcaffee-accused-of-assaulting-an-8-year-old-and-infecting-him-with-hiv-sparking-outrage-and-calls-for-tougher-child-protection-laws/">sex trafficking</a>, were dismissed, but the conviction was enough to send shockwaves through his empire.</p><p data-start="1927" data-end="2251">By October, the judge handed down his sentence: four years and two months in federal prison, a hefty fine, and five years of post release supervision. For Diddy, a man who once controlled global music charts, fashion runways, and multimillion dollar businesses, it was a moment that stripped away everything but the truth.</p><h2 data-start="2253" data-end="2270">Why New Jersey</h2><p data-start="2272" data-end="2747">After sentencing, Diddy’s legal team requested that he serve his time in New Jersey at the Federal Correctional Institution in Fort Dix. It’s a low security facility on a military base that houses thousands of inmates. Fort Dix isn’t luxurious, but it’s safer and more structured than higher security prisons. It offers educational programs, vocational training, and most importantly the Residential Drug Abuse Program which can reduce an inmate’s sentence by up to a year.</p><p data-start="2749" data-end="3101">His team argued that the facility would allow Diddy to participate in rehabilitation programs and remain closer to his family. The judge approved the placement. His time already served in the Brooklyn detention center will count toward his sentence, putting his expected release date somewhere around May 2028, assuming he earns good conduct credits.</p><h2 data-start="3103" data-end="3138">What Life Looks Like Behind Bars</h2><p data-start="3140" data-end="3402">At Fort Dix, Diddy’s days are dictated by the system. Wake up early, headcount, chow, work assignments, program sessions, lights out. The celebrity world where everything revolved around him is gone. There are no entourages, no personal chefs, no private jets.</p><p data-start="3404" data-end="3682">He’ll be expected to work like everyone else possibly in the kitchen, on maintenance crews, or in a factory unit. Phone calls are short and limited. Visits are controlled and monitored. The man who built an empire off commanding attention now lives under strict federal order.</p><p data-start="3684" data-end="3898">For someone used to private jets, champagne toasts, and luxury suites, the transition will be jarring. Even in a low security prison, the rules are rigid, the structure unyielding, and privacy almost nonexistent.</p><h2 data-start="3900" data-end="3922">The Empire on Pause</h2><p data-start="3924" data-end="4252">When Diddy went in, his business empire didn’t collapse overnight—but it did freeze. His companies, from his music ventures to his fashion brand and liquor partnerships, are being managed quietly by lawyers and corporate teams. But everyone knows that without the man himself steering the ship, things will never run the same.</p><p data-start="4254" data-end="4571">He has always been the face of his empire the decision maker, the strategist, the showman. Without him, investors get nervous, partners step back, and deals stall. Several brand collaborations have already been suspended. Some former partners have distanced themselves, hoping to avoid association with the scandal.</p><p data-start="4573" data-end="4805">Diddy built his business on image, and that image is now tarnished. What was once seen as bold and fearless now looks like arrogance and downfall. The business might survive financially, but the brand as the world knew it is gone.</p><h2 data-start="4807" data-end="4832">Reputation in Freefall</h2><p data-start="4834" data-end="5029">For more than thirty years, Diddy represented ambition and excellence. He became a model for Black entrepreneurship, a man who turned dreams into dollars. But his conviction changed everything.</p><p data-start="5031" data-end="5209">To some, this is long overdue accountability. To others, it’s another example of how the system loves to take down successful Black men. The truth sits somewhere in the middle.</p><p data-start="5211" data-end="5461">His public image has been completely reshaped. The mogul who once ruled hip hop with confidence and authority now carries the label of a convicted felon. His music, his awards, his legacy all are now overshadowed by what happened in that courtroom.</p><p data-start="5463" data-end="5687">For fans and followers, it’s a tough pill to swallow. We celebrated his wins, his influence, his swagger. Now we’re left grappling with the reality that success doesn’t erase wrongdoing and fame doesn’t guarantee immunity.</p><h2 data-start="5689" data-end="5710">The Bigger Picture</h2><p data-start="5712" data-end="5921">This isn’t just another celebrity downfall it’s a mirror reflecting deeper issues in our culture and justice system. Diddy’s case forces us to look at how money, fame, and race intersect in American justice.</p><p data-start="5923" data-end="6127">Would a less famous man have received the same treatment? Maybe not. Would a less wealthy one have ended up in a harsher prison? Probably. And that’s the contradiction he’s both privileged and punished.</p><p data-start="6129" data-end="6358">At the same time, it sparks conversations within the Black community about power, accountability, and legacy. Diddy’s story reminds us that influence doesn’t make you untouchable. In fact, it can make the fall that much harder.</p><h2 data-start="6360" data-end="6382">Life After Fort Dix</h2><p data-start="6384" data-end="6627">When Diddy finally walks out of Fort Dix, his next chapter will depend on how he handles these years. If he completes his programs, maintains good behavior, and truly uses this time for reflection, he could return to the world a changed man.</p><p data-start="6629" data-end="6832">The industry loves a comeback story, but only when it feels real. Audiences will be skeptical. Some will never forgive him. Others will be waiting to see if he takes ownership and shows genuine growth.</p><p data-start="6834" data-end="7074">Behind the scenes, there’s talk that his team is already planning a redemption narrative a book, a documentary, maybe even a reflective project about his time in prison. Whether that’s authentic or just another PR move remains to be seen.</p><p data-start="7076" data-end="7241">But one thing’s for sure: the Diddy who walks out in 2028 won’t be the same man who walked in. Prison changes people, especially those used to power and privilege.</p><h2 data-start="7243" data-end="7277">What This Means for the Culture</h2><p data-start="7279" data-end="7531">For Urban City readers, this moment hits deep. Diddy wasn’t just another rapper. He was a movement a symbol of how far Black ambition could go. His success showed young hustlers everywhere that you could come from the block and still build an empire.</p><p data-start="7533" data-end="7665">Now that symbol has cracked. His story forces the culture to ask: what do we celebrate? What do we ignore? And what do we forgive?</p><p data-start="7667" data-end="7916">We’ve seen this movie before powerful men brought down by ego, surrounded by yes men, blind to consequence. Diddy’s fall isn’t just personal, it’s cultural. It challenges us to redefine what success really means, especially for Black men in power.</p><h2 data-start="7918" data-end="7935">The Final Word</h2><p data-start="7937" data-end="8230">Diddy’s transfer to a New Jersey prison marks a turning point in one of hip hop’s biggest stories. It’s not just a fall from grace it’s a reality check. From Harlem to Hollywood, from the penthouse to prison, his journey shows how quickly the game can flip when the truth finally catches up.</p><p data-start="8232" data-end="8414">He’ll spend the next few years under federal watch, with limited contact and a stripped down life. His empire will continue without him, but his reputation may never fully recover.</p><p data-start="8416" data-end="8520"> </p><p data-start="8416" data-end="8520"> </p><p data-start="8416" data-end="8520">Whether you see it as justice or tragedy, one thing is clear: the era of “Bad Boy for Life” has ended.</p><p data-start="8522" data-end="8719">When he finally walks out those gates in 2028, the world he once ruled will have moved on. The question now isn’t whether he’ll come back it’s whether anyone will still be listening when he does.</p>								</div>
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									<p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:04"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="4370" data-end="6930">This week on Viewpoints.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="7250" data-end="11790">There are 19 million Americans who have a felony conviction,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:12"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="11930" data-end="15830">a huge barrier to employment and full participation in society.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="16310" data-end="22170">The difficult task of starting over and finding work after serving time, then.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:23"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="22610" data-end="26750">I was really thriving and really successful and at the top of my game,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:27"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="26750" data-end="32430">but I was starting more and more to feel anxious and a little out of control.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="33010" data-end="34530">Do you need a life coach?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:35"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="34890" data-end="35770">I&#8217;m Marty Peterson.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:36"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="36190" data-end="37390">And I&#8217;m Gary Price.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="37810" data-end="42570">These stories in depth this week on your public affairs magazine, Viewpoints.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:45"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="45490" data-end="47410">Thanks for calling Discover. This is Nia.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:48"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="47570" data-end="50510">Hi Nia, it&#8217;s Jennifer. 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Discover cash back match.</span></span></p><div class="mt-4"> </div><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="73250" data-end="74770">See terms at discover.com slash credit card.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:15"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="75110" data-end="76990">Sometimes I struggle to get to sleep.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="77390" data-end="80950">My body stopped for the day, but my mind is still running.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="81290" data-end="82470">So I take ZQuill.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:23"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="83030" data-end="85370">ZQuill, the world&#8217;s number one sleep aid brand,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="85650" data-end="89270">has a range of non-habit forming products to fit you and your family&#8217;s needs.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:30"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="89650" data-end="92550">Invest in a great night&#8217;s sleep for the best you tomorrow.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="93210" data-end="95970">I&#8217;m awake and ready to take on anything.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 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rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="157280" data-end="161980">So in some states, there are deductions taken out of their already meager pay,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:42"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="161980" data-end="166300">both for restitution, but also to cover court fees and fines.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="166800" data-end="172240">And so your average prisoner leaves prison thousands, if not tens of thousands of dollars in debt.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="172500" data-end="176520">That&#8217;s Beth Schwartzapfel, a staff writer at The Marshall Project,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="176760" data-end="180220">a non-profit media outlet covering criminal justice issues.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:01"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="180660" data-end="183940">You start out in this really big hole. That&#8217;s the first thing.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:04"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="184260" data-end="189680">And then you come out with a felony conviction, which makes it incredibly difficult to get a job.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="189680" data-end="192700">Studies have shown that when you start with a felony conviction,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="192820" data-end="197520">and then you layer race on top of it, Black men with a felony conviction got the lowest callback</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:18"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="197520" data-end="202060">rates of any group in a kind of seminal study of people who are applying for entry-level jobs.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="202160" data-end="204700">So the deck is really stacked against people.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="205480" data-end="208520">Without steady employment or access to education or training,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:29"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="208640" data-end="211740">it can be all too easy to slide back into incarceration.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:32"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="212220" data-end="217360">In a study published in September 2021, the Bureau of Justice Statistics looked at rates</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="217360" data-end="224740">of recidivism over a 10-year span between 2008 and 2018 across 24 states. Essentially,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:45"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="224940" data-end="230020">recidivism is when previously convicted criminals get re-arrested and re-enter the prison system.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:51"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="230500" data-end="236480">The report found that within three years, about two-thirds of former prisoners were arrested again.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="236900" data-end="240560">Within 10 years, this number jumped to 82 percent.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:01"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="241100" data-end="243940">Schwartzapfel says that part of the problem is this.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:04"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="243940" data-end="251920">Prisons pay prison workers little or nothing for their work.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:04"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="243940" data-end="251920">So it&#8217;s often prisoners who are doing</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:12"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="251920" data-end="257560">the work of keeping the prison running, doing the laundry, mopping the floors, filing papers,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:18"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="258120" data-end="263140">mowing the lawn, pretty much anything that has to happen besides for security to keep the prison</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:23"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="263140" data-end="269720">going, prisoners are doing. And yet they&#8217;re paid in a couple of states zero dollars and in most</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:30"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="269720" data-end="276760">other states pennies on the hour. Hourly wage for a prisoner is between 14 and 63 cents an hour,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="277000" data-end="283620">according to prison policy initiative.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="277000" data-end="283620">And the way that prisons sort of justify that is to say,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="283760" data-end="288260">well, it&#8217;s real world experience, right? They&#8217;re learning to work and they&#8217;ll be released with</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:48"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="288260" data-end="292400">whatever it is they did at the prison on their resume. But what kind of future work is this</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="292400" data-end="297220">setting them up for? There&#8217;s been a lot of talk around the importance of rehabilitation in prison.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="297220" data-end="302940">Well, one aspect of this is helping prisoners gain access to long term meaningful employment.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:03"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="303120" data-end="309640">Set them up with job training in a field where there&#8217;s demand, right? And where there&#8217;s a clear</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="309640" data-end="314720">path to get out and pursue that work. One advancement is the return of Pell grants</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:15"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="314720" data-end="319360">for prisoners, which are a form of federal need-based financial aid. Eligible students</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:19"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="319360" data-end="324660">can access aid and earn a degree through college and prison programs.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:19"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="319360" data-end="324660">However, in some cases,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="324660" data-end="329520">even with an education or relevant work experience, a criminal record is an automatic</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:30"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="329520" data-end="335440">disqualification. In some states, anybody with a felony conviction can&#8217;t get a barber&#8217;s license,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:36"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="335640" data-end="341700">can&#8217;t get a cosmetician&#8217;s license. During the wildfire season about how prisoners do a lot of</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:42"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="341700" data-end="347460">the firefighting work in California, there&#8217;s all these prison firefighting camps where prisoners</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="347460" data-end="353140">do a lot of the work around fighting these wildfires.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="347460" data-end="353140">And yet there&#8217;s a restriction against</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="353140" data-end="356700">people with felony convictions working as firefighters. So here they&#8217;re doing this</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="356700" data-end="361480">extremely dangerous job that prepares them for a career that they are not allowed to have when</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:01"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="361480" data-end="366540">they get out. Schwartzample says that one silver lining is that there has been growing awareness</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="366540" data-end="371700">around the harmful effects of mass incarceration.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="366540" data-end="371700">As a result, some business leaders are taking</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:12"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="371700" data-end="377200">steps to hire from this population. This can range from local independent companies to large</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="377200" data-end="381780">corporations like Kroger and JP Morgan, who are pulling from this pool of talent.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="381780" data-end="386800">We simply don&#8217;t have enough workers to fill all the openings that are out there.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="381780" data-end="386800">So this</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:27"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="386800" data-end="393300">does create an opportunity for employers to look beyond their traditional hiring,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="393460" data-end="397560">which is a very, very good thing. That&#8217;s Jeffrey Korzenik, an economic</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="397560" data-end="403120">researcher and author of Untapped Talent, How Second Chance Hiring Works for Your Business</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:43"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="403120" data-end="409000">and the Community. Korzenik says that there are currently 19 million Americans with a felony</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:49"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="409000" data-end="414540">conviction.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:49"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="409000" data-end="414540">For many within this group, a job offer is hard to come by.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="414620" data-end="419660">For all people who have exited prison, it&#8217;s estimated that the unemployment rate is 27 percent,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="420240" data-end="424240">and that includes those who are still looking. Of course, there are others who have simply dropped</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:04"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="424240" data-end="429980">out of labor force that you&#8217;d add on to that 27 percent number.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:04"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="424240" data-end="429980">In the first year out of</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="429980" data-end="434420">incarceration, the unemployment rate is thought to be north of 50 percent.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:14"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="434420" data-end="439000">Through his work, Korzenik has had many conversations with employers who have</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:19"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="439000" data-end="444960">voiced concerns about hiring ex-prisoners. The standard objections are all the same.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="445180" data-end="449160">There are really three of them. It starts with safety and liability. Are they</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:29"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="449160" data-end="453020">incurring what&#8217;s called negligent hiring liability, where they take on</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="453020" data-end="457620">extra risk if something goes wrong because they&#8217;ve hired someone with a criminal record?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="457940" data-end="462860">Then there&#8217;s concern about the quality of the product.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="457940" data-end="462860">Does second chance mean second rate?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:43"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="462860" data-end="469420">And then finally, there&#8217;s a reputation risk. And there are effective responses to each. Ultimately,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="469720" data-end="474940">it relies on employers not just opening their doors to people with criminal records,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="475180" data-end="480180">but doing it in a thoughtful way that has processes that selects who is appropriate</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="480180" data-end="485720">for any given role.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="480180" data-end="485720">It also gives them the tools to thrive. Some of these tools may mean extra</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:06"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="485720" data-end="490720">mentorship or taking the time to help develop professional skills like communication and</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:11"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="490720" data-end="495440">collaboration. Korzenik says that if more employers are going to access this talent pool,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="495580" data-end="500540">they need to be aware of some of the gaps that candidates may have.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="495580" data-end="500540">Another common mistake is</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="500540" data-end="506420">blanket protocols on who exactly is hirable. Employers often fail to distinguish between</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="506420" data-end="512059">someone who&#8217;s just out of prison or someone who&#8217;s been out for 20 years and is well-established.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:32"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="512400" data-end="516520">They tend to have blanket prohibitions on hiring people with criminal records,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="516520" data-end="523960">or even if they don&#8217;t have actual prohibitions, will have a process that, in effect, excludes</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="523960" data-end="530360">people with records from serious consideration.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="523960" data-end="530360">So someone who is 20 years out or 10 years out</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="530360" data-end="535400">or even five years out, who&#8217;s had stable employment, stable housing, stable transportation,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="535800" data-end="540380">that&#8217;s really just another job candidate, doesn&#8217;t need any special consideration.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="540380" data-end="547080">Yet all too often, employers exclude them as well. Stable employment plays a big role</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="547080" data-end="552160">in prisoner rehabilitation.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="547080" data-end="552160">A candidate that&#8217;s a good fit for the position and the company</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:12"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="552160" data-end="559680">benefits both parties and can lead to a more well-rounded workplace. If the 21st century is</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:20"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="559680" data-end="565200">when we finally realize that diversity of not just race, gender, you know, sexual orientation,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="565200" data-end="570820">but also viewpoints and life histories is what makes organizations strong and makes workplaces</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="570820" data-end="576460">strong, then, man, these folks have been through the wringer and they have seen so much and have</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:36"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="576460" data-end="582700">so much to offer as far as, you know, wisdom and life experience. And I think more and more people</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:43"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="582700" data-end="587300">are starting to recognize that.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:43"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="582700" data-end="587300">To find out more about this topic and our guests, Beth</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="587300" data-end="592580">Schwartzapple and Jeffrey Korzenik, visit viewpointsradio.org. You can learn about</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="592580" data-end="598540">The Marshall Project by visiting themarshallproject.org. Also check Korzenik&#8217;s book,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="598760" data-end="604180">Untapped Talent, now available online and in bookstores. This segment originally aired in</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:04"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="604180" data-end="618060">January 2022 and was written and produced by Amira Zaveri. I&#8217;m Gary Price.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:04"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="604180" data-end="618060">Coming up,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:18"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="618260" data-end="622680">the difference between a therapist and a life coach. Wind Viewpoints returns.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="624560" data-end="627480">Progressive knows there are some surprisingly expensive things in life,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:28"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="627880" data-end="632480">like fences.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:28"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="627880" data-end="632480">A house with a big yard and a white picket fence was always the dream.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="632740" data-end="636520">But then you saw the price to install a fence and you&#8217;re wondering if the color is driving the</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="636520" data-end="641500">price up. Nobody ever dreams of a beige or a gray picket fence, right? So maybe those fences</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:42"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="641500" data-end="645840">are cheaper.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:42"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="641500" data-end="645840">But no, they&#8217;re not. Then you remember that switching your home and auto</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:46"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="645840" data-end="651080">to progressive could save you hundreds and make all your dreams of a fence come true.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:51"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="651080" data-end="654460">Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and other insurers not available in all states.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="656440" data-end="659320">This is the sound of captivity.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:02"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="661960" data-end="671520">This is the sound of rescue. And this is the sound of freedom.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:02"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="661960" data-end="671520">Give Armenia&#8217;s captive bears</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:12"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="671520" data-end="680500">a second chance by supporting International Animal Rescue. Call 508-826-1083 or search</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="680500" data-end="687500">The Great Bear Rescue to learn more. If you have a lot of shopping to do for summer,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:28"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="687700" data-end="692760">then you&#8217;re actually in luck.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:28"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="687700" data-end="692760">Because at Macy&#8217;s, the latest designer trends are here now.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="692980" data-end="699080">From swimming sandals to match sets and linen suits, all for 20% off. But get this.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="692980" data-end="699080">Spend $100</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="699080" data-end="706720">and get 25% off. Spend $200 and get 30% off. 30%.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="699080" data-end="706720">So the bigger your summer, the better. Because</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="706720" data-end="712040">the more you buy, the more you save. But hurry, it all ends Sunday at Macy&#8217;s.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="706720" data-end="712040">Savings off already</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="712040" data-end="717020">reduced prices. Exclusions apply. At Charmin, we heard you shouldn&#8217;t talk about going to the</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="717020" data-end="723180">bathroom in public.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="717020" data-end="723180">So we decided to sing about it. Let a candle pour some wine. Grab a roll,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:03"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="723280" data-end="729740">the soft kind for a little me time.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:03"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="723280" data-end="729740">Charmin Ultra Soft Smooth Tear. Wave the edges for my rear.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="729740" data-end="738180">So let the softness caress your soul.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="729740" data-end="738180">Just relax, you&#8217;re on a roll. Charmin Ultra Soft Smooth Tear.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:18"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="738220" data-end="741840">Charmin Ultra Soft Smooth Tear has the same softness you love.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:18"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="738220" data-end="741840">Now with wavy edges that</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="741840" data-end="744580">tear better than the leading one-ply brand. Enjoy the go with Charmin.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="752910" data-end="764210">In life, there&#8217;s no playbook or cheat code.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="752910" data-end="764210">In fact, everyone has a different idea of what a</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:45"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="764770" data-end="771830">they have. While others, like Mason Farmani, are dead set on career success. However,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="772210" data-end="777250">once he achieved this success, the rest of his life wasn&#8217;t falling into order like he thought</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="777250" data-end="782290">it would.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="777250" data-end="782290">What was happening was that I was really thriving and really successful and</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:02"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="782290" data-end="790470">the top of my game. But I was starting more and more to feel anxious and a little out of control.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="790470" data-end="794690">To try and get a grasp on his anxiety, he started working with a therapist.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:15"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="795390" data-end="801130">He was able to manage these feelings but could never completely overcome them. In his journey</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="801130" data-end="806810">to find healing, Farmani spoke with a psychiatrist who took a different approach to his anxiety.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:27"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="807310" data-end="813650">Instead of looking at the outside factors, Farmani was encouraged to dig deeper within himself.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:34"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="813650" data-end="820390">We started talking about purpose, what it is that I really, really needed to do and wanted to do in</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:40"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="820390" data-end="829870">my life. And so I really realized that in my role as a CEO and managing partner of all these firms</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="829870" data-end="838290">that I had created, I was fulfilling only a part of me, but not all of me. And I had always coached</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:58"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="838290" data-end="845710">my employees and my executives.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:58"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="838290" data-end="845710">And so I was like, you know what, that&#8217;s when I lose myself</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:06"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="845710" data-end="853470">in time. That when I start to coach people, that&#8217;s when I am in the zone and I don&#8217;t really realize</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="853470" data-end="859850">how time flies and how time goes by. Sometimes I was being late to my next meeting because I was</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:20"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="859850" data-end="864630">just enjoying doing that coaching with the employees so much.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:20"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="859850" data-end="864630">It didn&#8217;t take long for</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="864630" data-end="870270">him to realize his true calling. Coaching was where he could put his education and expertise</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:30"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="870270" data-end="876850">to use while also helping those around him. That&#8217;s when my anxiety started to just disappear.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="877770" data-end="883790">When I got connected to my why, when I got connected to the reason why I&#8217;m really here,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="884310" data-end="890510">that&#8217;s when I started living my purpose. One note, it&#8217;s important to realize that this shift</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:51"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="890510" data-end="896070">didn&#8217;t come from Farmani&#8217;s career change. Becoming a life coach wasn&#8217;t the secret ingredient,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="896490" data-end="902170">but rather the product of figuring out who he is at his core.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="896490" data-end="902170">As a life coach,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:02"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="902290" data-end="907910">Farmani first works with his clients to find their identity. And though questions like,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="908090" data-end="911950">where are you from? And what do you do? Are often the first to be asked.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:12"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="912190" data-end="915690">Those aren&#8217;t going to get to the root of who you are.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="915690" data-end="924810">It&#8217;s not very often that we stop and take an inventory of who we really are and who we are not</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="924810" data-end="930670">and who we really want to be. Some of what you want to be, it&#8217;s going to get carried over to who</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="930670" data-end="936790">you really want to live your life as moving forward. But there&#8217;s a bunch of stuff that</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="936790" data-end="945270">gets created.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="936790" data-end="945270">Once you get that, then we go from that point and we create your life through this</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:45"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="945270" data-end="951230">lens of who you want to be. And you look at it in every decision you make.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="951830" data-end="956990">So, if you want to be kind and courageous, you use that as a guide for how you respond</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="956990" data-end="962690">to every situation.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="956990" data-end="962690">Notice that understanding who you are and who you want to be doesn&#8217;t</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:03"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="962690" data-end="966530">have anything to do with what career you&#8217;ll have or when you&#8217;ll get married.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="967150" data-end="971510">Farmani says that when going through this exercise, it&#8217;s important to think in terms</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:12"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="971510" data-end="976910">of core attributes instead of the roles you may have. Those roles will change,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="977110" data-end="982090">but the core of who you are will dictate how you carry yourself through the rest of your life.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="982290" data-end="987690">As relationships go broken up and you may be a wife today, but you may be,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:28"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="987810" data-end="992190">I don&#8217;t know, mother tomorrow, and then you may lose all of it one day.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="992690" data-end="997470">Well, what&#8217;s left to it is yourself, not your role.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="997470" data-end="1002730">Once you have this starting foundation of who you are and what your obstacles are,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:43"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1003130" data-end="1006410">you&#8217;re able to place this lens over your entire life.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1006690" data-end="1012170">So, if we can create a life that lives out of that intention,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1012710" data-end="1017790">then you&#8217;ve got to make every decision that you make through that lens. Your career,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:58"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1018270" data-end="1024170">your relationships, your community, which is a part of the relationship, yourself,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1024670" data-end="1027589">self-care and who you are, which is a piece of it.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1027970" data-end="1035589">And if you live a balance in all of those different parts, then your satisfaction</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1036250" data-end="1041230">and your love for life doesn&#8217;t only come from one section.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1041310" data-end="1046050">Which means that if a relationship falls apart or there&#8217;s a bump in your career,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:27"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1046510" data-end="1050730">you still have other areas of your life to lean on and feel fulfilled by.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1050730" data-end="1056210">If you&#8217;re thinking that life coaching sounds a lot like therapy, you&#8217;re not completely wrong.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1056750" data-end="1059450">Both aim to help individuals better their lives.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:40"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1059930" data-end="1063330">But while therapy focuses on mental and emotional healing,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1063810" data-end="1066010">life coaching tends to be more external.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1066750" data-end="1069090">Another main distinction is the provider.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1069710" data-end="1072710">Therapists undergo years of schooling and a certification,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1073470" data-end="1078470">while an effective life coach relies on their personal experience in their chosen field.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:58"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1078470" data-end="1084350">The difference is in coaching that you have the knowledge, right?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1084510" data-end="1089710">Like, for example, I do corporate coaching, but I have 40 years of running companies.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1089890" data-end="1095290">So when I do corporate coaching, I also reach into my experience to coach.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1095690" data-end="1098590">However, no one&#8217;s experience is going to be perfect.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:19"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1099230" data-end="1102690">All of us have experienced failure, which begs the question,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:23"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1103070" data-end="1107430">does a life coach have to have their own life together in order to be effective?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:27"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1107430" data-end="1110110">Farmani says it depends.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1110630" data-end="1117790">I think that a good coach also reaches out to their failures in their life to help clients, right?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1118290" data-end="1122530">So it depends on what area you&#8217;re coaching.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:43"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1123330" data-end="1126970">You know, like I have had people that are great corporate coaches,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1127390" data-end="1129790">but they&#8217;re terrible at relationship coaching.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1130390" data-end="1134510">Which is similar to therapy in the sense that there are different areas that therapists</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1134510" data-end="1137070">specialize in to help specific problems.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:58"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1137710" data-end="1139670">But unlike professional therapy,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1140050" data-end="1143730">life coaches are able to bring their own experience to the table.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:04"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1144370" data-end="1146930">While this flexibility can be extremely helpful,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1147470" data-end="1150150">Farmani says that the field&#8217;s lack of accreditation</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1150150" data-end="1153750">has made it more difficult for people to find a credible coach.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:14"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1154190" data-end="1158430">Currently, there&#8217;s no licensing, there&#8217;s no certification requirements, right?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:19"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1158750" data-end="1161610">And I think at some point it&#8217;s going to change because there&#8217;s so many people</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1161610" data-end="1164490">that are coming into the field claiming that they are coaches.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1165130" data-end="1168530">And they&#8217;re going in, maybe they&#8217;re going through a three-month certification,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:29"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1168770" data-end="1170650">and even there&#8217;s people that are teaching them.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1170730" data-end="1173170">I&#8217;m not sure that they&#8217;re qualified to teach.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1173470" data-end="1175910">Since anyone can claim the title,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:36"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1176350" data-end="1180230">Farmani says it&#8217;s so important to set up a quick 15-minute interview</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:40"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1180230" data-end="1184730">to make sure the coach you&#8217;re choosing is the right fit for your specific needs.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:45"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1185130" data-end="1188130">So during that 15 minutes, you&#8217;ve got to be in charge, right?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:48"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1188130" data-end="1191570">You&#8217;ve got to be really standing up for yourself</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1191570" data-end="1197710">and presenting yourself in such a way that all of you is asking the right questions</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:58"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1198270" data-end="1201230">so that you know whether this is the right fit.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:01"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1201450" data-end="1205690">You want to come from the areas that you need help with,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:06"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1206150" data-end="1209410">and then you want to ask them,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1209810" data-end="1212330">how would you help me in this area, right?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1212730" data-end="1217290">And also, can you tell me a little bit about somebody</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1217290" data-end="1220750">that was in this situation before,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1221110" data-end="1223790">one of your old clients, one of your previous clients,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:24"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1224170" data-end="1227370">that you were able to help, and how did you help them,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:28"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1227710" data-end="1228810">and what was the outcome?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:29"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1229210" data-end="1233230">Focusing on the outcome of previous clients in similar situations</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1233230" data-end="1235950">will help you realize which coach will be best for you.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:36"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1236390" data-end="1239830">You can find more information about life coaches and our guest,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:40"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1239970" data-end="1243150">Mason Farmani, by heading to viewpointsradio.org.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1243690" data-end="1246390">For more behind-the-scenes and to support our program,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:46"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1246390" data-end="1249350">follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and X.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1249950" data-end="1252450">This segment originally aired on our sister show,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1252590" data-end="1255130">Radio Health Journal, back in September 2024,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1255490" data-end="1258430">and was written by our lead producer, Kristen Farrah.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1258730" data-end="1260950">Our executive producer is Amira Zaveri.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:01"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1261090" data-end="1263150">Our studio manager is Jason Dickey.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:04"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1263650" data-end="1264510">I&#8217;m Marty Peterson.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1272600" data-end="1274680">Viewpoints returns in just a moment.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:19"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1278580" data-end="1281460">The peace lily is so last year.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1281740" data-end="1283400">Hey, has anyone worked with fiddlenecks?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:23"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1283400" data-end="1286040">Shelby&#8217;s popular flower shop is in full bloom.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1286240" data-end="1289180">We just got a request for an arrangement that evokes air.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:30"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1289780" data-end="1291080">Who&#8217;s up for that challenge?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:32"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1291540" data-end="1292100">No?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:32"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1292360" data-end="1296620">She needs to hire a floral designer to nip foliage faux pas in the bud.</span></span></p><div class="mt-4"> </div><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1296860" data-end="1297520">I need Indeed.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1298000" data-end="1298920">Indeed you do.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1299300" data-end="1301580">Our advanced matching helps find talented candidates</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:42"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1301580" data-end="1303480">so you can connect with them fast.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1303900" data-end="1306940">Redeem your $75 credit at indeed.com credit.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1307440" data-end="1308480">Terms and conditions apply.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:49"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1308740" data-end="1310720">Sometimes I struggle to get to sleep.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:51"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1310720" data-end="1314620">My body stopped for the day, but my mind is still running.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1315100" data-end="1316180">So I take Z-Quill.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1316420" data-end="1319080">Z-Quill, the world&#8217;s number one sleep aid brand,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1319280" data-end="1322960">has a range of non-habit forming products to fit you and your family&#8217;s needs.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:03"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1323320" data-end="1326220">Invest in a great night&#8217;s sleep for the best you tomorrow.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1326680" data-end="1329700">I&#8217;m awake and ready to take on anything.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1330340" data-end="1332780">Better days start with Z-Quill nights.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1333140" data-end="1335340">Explore our products at zquill.com.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1335660" data-end="1337420">Uses directed keep out of reach of children.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1341840" data-end="1344120">This is Viewpoints Explained.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1344500" data-end="1345620">I&#8217;m Ebony McMorris.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1346040" data-end="1350220">Last spring, billions of cicadas broke out of the ground across the U.S.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:30"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1350300" data-end="1354060">It was one of the largest and loudest cicada takeovers in recent memory.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:35"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1354560" data-end="1359520">This mass emergence was caused by two different variations of cicadas coming up at once.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:40"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1359920" data-end="1364300">One on a 13-year cycle, the other appearing every 17 years.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:45"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1364680" data-end="1366200">But their timing wasn&#8217;t a coincidence.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:46"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1366200" data-end="1370780">It was the result of one of nature&#8217;s most mysterious internal clocks.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:51"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1371220" data-end="1374480">These insects spend nearly their entire lives underground</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:54"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1374480" data-end="1380440">and survive by feeding on xylem sap, a nutrient-rich liquid found in tree root.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:01"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1380820" data-end="1384420">According to researchers, cicadas may be keeping time by</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:04"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1384420" data-end="1387440">noticing subtle differences in how their food tastes.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1387660" data-end="1389840">Each spring, as trees bud and bloom,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1390140" data-end="1393920">the xylem sap briefly becomes thicker and richer in nutrients.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:14"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1393920" data-end="1396500">This change acts like a yearly signal,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1396840" data-end="1400140">and scientists believe that cicadas keep track of this number.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1400600" data-end="1404700">Once it hits 13 or 17, depending on the species of cicada,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1405040" data-end="1410800">they tunnel up from the ground and start the brief, noisy business of mating and laying eggs.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1411340" data-end="1413660">And this mass exodus from the dirt is strategic.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:34"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1414080" data-end="1418680">When millions of cicadas appear all at once, predators can&#8217;t possibly eat them all.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1419000" data-end="1422360">It&#8217;s a phenomenon in nature called predator satiation.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:42"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1422360" data-end="1425040">Still, some big questions linger.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:46"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1425540" data-end="1429120">Out of the more than 3,000 known cicada species around the world,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:49"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1429400" data-end="1431560">only nine follow this kind of schedule.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1432140" data-end="1434260">Why so few and what do the rest do?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1434560" data-end="1437100">Scientists don&#8217;t fully know these answers yet.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1437440" data-end="1440540">What they do know is that what happened last summer,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:01"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1440840" data-end="1444120">the mass arrival of two cicadas on different cycles,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:04"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1444460" data-end="1447720">won&#8217;t happen again for more than 200 years.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1448280" data-end="1450140">That&#8217;s Viewpoints Explained for this week.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1450240" data-end="1451200">More in a moment.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1460560" data-end="1465740">Welcome to Culture Crash, where we examine what&#8217;s new and old in entertainment.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:27"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1466760" data-end="1473120">Bon Iver singer-songwriter Justin Vernon has always been known for his forlorn music.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1473440" data-end="1479220">His first album, titled For Emma Forever Ago, was famously the product of Vernon</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1479220" data-end="1485960">shuttering himself up in a Wisconsin cabin to explore his feelings of heartache and dissatisfaction.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1486520" data-end="1492620">Since that album&#8217;s release in 2007, songs from it, like Skinny Love and ReStacks,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1492760" data-end="1498040">have soundtracked many depressive episodes and cry sessions all around the world.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:58"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1498460" data-end="1502480">The first four tracks of Bon Iver&#8217;s newest album, Sable Fable,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:03"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1502960" data-end="1508300">follow suit, seeing Vernon in a reflective and, yes, downcast mood.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:09"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1508860" data-end="1511240">And then disc two of the album begins,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:11"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1511240" data-end="1516760">and the Bon Iver project steps into a world of positivity and joy.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1517320" data-end="1521180">On Short Story, the first track of the Fable portion of the album,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1521680" data-end="1522540">Vernon sings,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:23"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1523240" data-end="1524740">January ain&#8217;t the whole world,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1525160" data-end="1527140">And fallings really overshown,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:27"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1527460" data-end="1529980">And you&#8217;re never really, really on your own.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1530520" data-end="1536560">Disc two of the Sable Fable album also features two of my favorite Bon Iver songs ever released,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1536720" data-end="1539560">in Everything is Peaceful Love and There&#8217;s a Rhythm.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:40"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1539560" data-end="1545840">There is something truly magical about a musical act so known for its heartbreak and sadness</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:46"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1545840" data-end="1550440">to break through that ice and deliver songs about being contented,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:51"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1550740" data-end="1553880">being happy, and finding your own place in the world.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1554600" data-end="1558960">Sable Fable might not have any songs of the summer in the traditional sense,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1559120" data-end="1562420">as Bon Iver is unlikely to dominate the airwaves,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:03"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1562920" data-end="1568120">but it has plenty of songs that would fit right in on a drive home after a day at the beach,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1568120" data-end="1573120">or on a lazy Sunday cleaning up after a bangin&#8217; barbecue the night before.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:14"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1573560" data-end="1577240">And that&#8217;s because Bon Iver&#8217;s Sable Fable has the kind of music</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1577240" data-end="1580200">you can joyfully soundtrack your life to.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1580720" data-end="1581600">I&#8217;m Evan Rook.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:29"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1588520" data-end="1592620">If you have a lot of shopping to do for summer, then you&#8217;re actually in luck.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1592820" data-end="1596180">Because at Macy&#8217;s, the latest designer trends are here now.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:36"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1596320" data-end="1600600">From swimmin&#8217; sandals to match sets and linen suits, all for 20% off.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:41"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1600600" data-end="1601480">But get this.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:42"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1601740" data-end="1604400">Spend $100 and get 25% off.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:45"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1604540" data-end="1606820">Spend $200 and get 30% off.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:48"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1607500" data-end="1607940">30%.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:48"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1607940" data-end="1609680">So the bigger your summer, the better.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1609920" data-end="1611780">Because the more you buy, the more you save.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1612020" data-end="1614460">But hurry, it all ends Sunday at Macy&#8217;s.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1614800" data-end="1616120">Savings off already reduced prices.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1616360" data-end="1616980">Exclusions apply.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:58"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1618200" data-end="1621260">You ever try fixing your car and realize you&#8217;re missing that one part?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:02"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1621720" data-end="1622720">Yeah, been there.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:03"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1623100" data-end="1624280">That&#8217;s why eBay&#8217;s my go-to.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1624580" data-end="1626600">They&#8217;ve got millions of parts, guaranteed to fit.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1626980" data-end="1630180">I&#8217;m talking brake pads for when yours have seen one too many miles of stop and go.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1630180" data-end="1633060">Oil filters, because you don&#8217;t mess around with your engine care.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:14"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1633560" data-end="1635420">Even got this cold air intake on my watch list?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1635660" data-end="1636620">I might just go for it.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1636920" data-end="1639040">To keep the ride cool and your DIY streak hot.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:19"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1639420" data-end="1641160">Find all the parts you need at prices you love.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1641400" data-end="1642680">Guaranteed to fit every time.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:23"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1643260" data-end="1643480">eBay.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:24"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1643840" data-end="1644280">Things.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1644720" data-end="1644960">People.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1645400" data-end="1645720">Love.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1646080" data-end="1646840">Eligible items only.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:27"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1646960" data-end="1647560">Exclusions apply.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:32"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1651960" data-end="1653940">And that&#8217;s Viewpoints for this week.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:34"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1654180" data-end="1658500">Follow us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram to learn more about upcoming shows.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1658500" data-end="1663540">And find a library of past programs on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, and Spotify.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1664080" data-end="1668320">Plus, you&#8217;ll always find previous segments and more information about our guests at</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:48"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1668320" data-end="1670060">viewpointsradio.org.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1670360" data-end="1673260">Join us again next week for another edition of Viewpoints.</span></span></p>								</div>
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