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class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="41230" data-end="43650">the body if in the process you destroy the soul.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="44010" data-end="46330">All that and more this week on <a href="https://www.urbancitypodcast.com/radio-health-journal-segment-1-facing-dementia-early-detection-and-advancements-in-treatment/">Radio Health Journal</a>.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="47410" data-end="51190">Do Crohn&#8217;s disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms keep coming back?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="51890" data-end="57110">Tremphaya gazelkomab may help, with rapid remission achieved at 12 weeks and lasting</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="57110" data-end="58750">clinical remission at one year.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 0:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="59470" data-end="63790">Some even saw visible improvement of their intestinal lining at 12 weeks and one year.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:04"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="64230" data-end="67810">Tremphaya is a prescription medicine used to treat adults with moderately to severely</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="67810" data-end="72150">active Crohn&#8217;s disease and adults with moderately to severely active ulcerative colitis.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="72590" data-end="76370">Serious allergic reactions and increased risk of infections and liver problems may occur.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="76670" data-end="79670">Before treatment, your doctor should check you for infections and tuberculosis.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:20"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="80230" data-end="83670">Tell your doctor if you have an infection, flu-like symptoms, or if you need a vaccine.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:24"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="84250" data-end="86070">Healing is possible with Tremphaya.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="86070" data-end="90710">Approximately 3 out of 10 patients were in endoscopic remission at one year, based on</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="90710" data-end="94990">areas visualized on colonoscopy, which may not represent the deeper bowel layer or entire</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:35"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="94990" data-end="95650">GI tract.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:36"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="95910" data-end="97230">Individual results may vary.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="97510" data-end="99190">Ask your doctor about Tremphaya today.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:40"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="99790" data-end="105510">Call 1-800-526-7736 to learn more or visit Tremphayaradio.com.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 1:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="115720" data-end="119780">Cancer entered Roger Holzberg&#8217;s vocabulary at a young age.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="120100" data-end="124800">His cousin grew up just down the street, and the two were inseparable, until an aggressive</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="124800" data-end="128780">form of pediatric kidney cancer stopped the duo in their tracks.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:09"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="129199" data-end="134640">At age 14, Holzberg watched his best friend fight for eight months until he had nothing</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:15"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="134640" data-end="135420">left to give.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="135660" data-end="140640">About a decade after that, my parents were divorced, my mom was terminal with breast</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="140640" data-end="148880">cancer, and as the oldest kid, I had to make her end-of-life decisions at a time when no</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:29"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="148880" data-end="150300">one should have to make those decisions.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="151380" data-end="155540">My dad, who was a physician at that point, said, so now you&#8217;re going to go into med school</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:36"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="155540" data-end="158140">and help fix this cancer problem, right?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="158480" data-end="162480">To which I said, I&#8217;m going to be as far away from med school as I possibly can be.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:43"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="162700" data-end="163700">I&#8217;m going to art school.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="164200" data-end="169180">Holzberg dove headfirst into his passion, and landed with a position as a creative director</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:49"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="169180" data-end="172120">and vice president at Walt Disney Imagineering.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="172540" data-end="176940">Just when he thought he had the rest of his life figured out, the enemy Holzberg had worked</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 2:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="176940" data-end="181040">so hard to distance himself from barged right back into his life.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:02"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="181560" data-end="186520">Despite his strict diet and exercise regimen, Holzberg had begun gaining weight and feeling</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="186520" data-end="187480">more lethargic.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="187880" data-end="189740">I called my physician the next day.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:11"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="190500" data-end="196120">On the eve of my 50th birthday, I heard those three words that one in two American men and</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="196120" data-end="198580">one in three American women hear in their lifetime.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:19"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="198960" data-end="199760">You have cancer.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:20"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="199760" data-end="206520">The good news is it was an early diagnosis, stage one, completely still encapsulated.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:27"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="207180" data-end="210620">And I knew very little about health care at that point.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="211160" data-end="216480">My dad came back into my life and said, so your prognosis looks really good.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="216800" data-end="218040">You ought to do some volunteering.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="218560" data-end="223540">Holzberg pulled together a group of his Imagineer co-workers, and as he successfully fought</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="223540" data-end="228520">his own thyroid cancer, the team adapted some favorite Disney attractions for Children&#8217;s</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:49"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="228520" data-end="229800">Hospital of Orange County.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="229980" data-end="237120">Which included adapting one of our attractions called Turtle Talk with Crush to Children&#8217;s</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="237120" data-end="238140">Hospital of Orange County.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 3:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="238620" data-end="244760">And suddenly I met child life specialists and I saw immersive distraction therapy work</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="244760" data-end="250240">and I got to help Crush the Turtle be more than just a goofball surfer dude, to be a</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="250240" data-end="250920">comfort friend.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:11"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="251240" data-end="256060">I&#8217;d say that was the first time the light bulb went off, which was realized in the project</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="256060" data-end="262080">we&#8217;d just opened, where I went, why didn&#8217;t I have stuff like this when I was in adult</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="262080" data-end="262540">treatment?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:23"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="263020" data-end="267900">Holzberg had spent his time in treatment either staring at a blank wall or watching the news</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:28"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="267900" data-end="269620">from a TV in the corner of the room.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:30"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="269840" data-end="277500">I remember sitting in a chair in a hospital going, my healing place is the ocean.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="277760" data-end="283580">If I could be in Malibu, if I could be out the water and there was a dolphin near me,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="283640" data-end="284860">I&#8217;m an ocean swimmer, right?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:45"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="284860" data-end="286600">That would be my healing place.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="286780" data-end="289760">And I went, wait a second, you work for Walt Disney Imagineering.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="290440" data-end="293700">Your job is putting people in virtual places.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:54"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="293860" data-end="298460">You could have been there in every way, but physically, what would that have meant?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 4:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="298680" data-end="302880">These realizations led Holzberg to finally jump into the healthcare space.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:03"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="303080" data-end="309220">He co-founded Reimagine Well, a company that uses technology to create immersive healing</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:09"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="309220" data-end="309920">programs.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="310440" data-end="314780">Just around the corner at City of Hope Orange County, Annette Walker was having the same</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:15"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="314780" data-end="315300">thoughts.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="315820" data-end="320220">Known in the healthcare industry as a visionary and innovator, Walker had begun to set her</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:20"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="320220" data-end="322500">sights on the part of care that&#8217;s often overlooked.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:23"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="322940" data-end="324160">The patient experience.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="324620" data-end="331520">There&#8217;s a quote that we kind of like to incorporate into our ethos that there&#8217;s no profit in healing</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:32"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="331520" data-end="334080">the body if in the process you destroy the soul.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:35"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="334620" data-end="338620">Walker is the president of City of Hope Orange County, a comprehensive cancer center.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="339300" data-end="343520">Though the organization isn&#8217;t faith-based, they&#8217;ve realized that their patients are made</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="343520" data-end="348840">up of mind, body, and spirit, which means to have the highest potential for healing,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:49"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="349260" data-end="352060">Walker believes they need to address all three factors.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="352620" data-end="358020">So when it came time to design the program&#8217;s spiritual care center, a vague non-denominational</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 5:58"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="358020" data-end="359920">room wasn&#8217;t going to cut it.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="360200" data-end="366760">Either they are so generic, they&#8217;re not sacred enough or personal enough to the person who</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="366760" data-end="372140">needs them, or they really are dedicated to one denomination, one faith tradition, and</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:12"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="372140" data-end="373360">the others are excluded.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:14"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="374240" data-end="379900">So I think that our attempts to meet the needs of every patient, I mean, we would do the</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:20"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="379900" data-end="381760">same thing in other aspects of their care.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="381980" data-end="383700">This is one aspect of your care.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:24"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="383840" data-end="388740">So for instance, if you had cancer, you might need nutritional counseling, or you might</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:29"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="388740" data-end="390920">need acupuncture, or you might need something else.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:32"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="391600" data-end="394540">And in all cases, that care is personalized to you.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:35"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="395080" data-end="395980">This is no different.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:36"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="396320" data-end="402060">This is our ability to personalize a spiritual care to the individual&#8217;s needs.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:43"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="402600" data-end="407340">However, the Orange County community has five primary religions, as well as groups that</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="407340" data-end="410820">believe more in spirituality than one specific faith.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:51"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="411320" data-end="415380">As you can imagine, Walker didn&#8217;t have the space for seven separate rooms.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 6:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="415800" data-end="421500">So our dilemma was, wow, we have five primary religions in Orange County, as well as people</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:02"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="421500" data-end="425360">who are not religious, but are spiritual and have other needs.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:06"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="426020" data-end="427860">How do we address all these populations?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="428080" data-end="432600">And the idea was presented by our chief operating officer, hey, why don&#8217;t we try immersive reality?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="433080" data-end="440620">And it was like, oh, my God, could we, we&#8217;re so good technically, could we use technology</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="440620" data-end="442860">on the softest part of our services?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:24"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="443580" data-end="445120">And that&#8217;s when they brought in Holzberg.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="445580" data-end="449960">He had already been using immersive technology at the Children&#8217;s Hospital after an oncologist</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:30"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="449960" data-end="453720">had challenged him to find a way of helping the kids who had just been diagnosed with</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:34"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="453720" data-end="454180">cancer.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:34"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="454460" data-end="458420">And he said, you know, my pediatric patients, they get diagnosed with cancer.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="458760" data-end="463060">They immediately feel isolated, depressed, withdrawn.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="463660" data-end="468940">And those three things in concert with chemotherapy is just not good.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="469500" data-end="472680">So how do we change the chemotherapy experience?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="472840" data-end="475720">And I said, can I go out with a survey of your patients?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="476240" data-end="478540">And he said, well, you&#8217;re not a doctor.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 7:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="478540" data-end="480500">What kind of survey do you want to send to my patients?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:01"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="480540" data-end="485220">I said, basically, one question, if you could get your treatment anywhere in the universe</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:06"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="485620" data-end="489560">and there were no rules, what special place would help heal you?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="490000" data-end="495480">In the 15 years we&#8217;ve been asking kids and adolescent young adult cancer patients, what</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:15"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="495480" data-end="497260">special place would help heal them?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:18"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="497800" data-end="500940">Never once has one of them come back and said that would be a hospital.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="501480" data-end="506680">So in the same way that he surveyed pediatric patients, Holzberg&#8217;s first step for City of</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:27"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="506680" data-end="510480">Hope&#8217;s new spiritual center was to survey the people in Orange County.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="510820" data-end="517440">My job is never to tell a patient or clinician what is right and healing for their population.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="517919" data-end="522960">It&#8217;s to ask them what is healing for their population and then get that for them.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="523680" data-end="528840">We went out to patients and families and we went out to faith leaders with a very similar</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:49"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="528840" data-end="532240">question to what we asked our pediatric patients.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="532420" data-end="534500">But it wasn&#8217;t about your healing place.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 8:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="534500" data-end="539800">It was about your family coming together in a sacred healing place.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:01"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="540620" data-end="547320">And so that&#8217;s what gave us the answers for the five faith themes and the two nature themes.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="547400" data-end="554380">The team settled on creating scenes depicting a chapel, mandir, mosque, synagogue, temple,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:15"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="554920" data-end="556840">an alpine forest, and the beach.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="557420" data-end="562080">Holzberg&#8217;s team had gone back and forth on how immersive they wanted the experience to</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="562080" data-end="562320">be.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="562320" data-end="565160">We concepted a number of different approaches.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="565940" data-end="572700">One of them was very immersive, meaning the people in the room were surrounded by imagery.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="573420" data-end="581100">Another one is what we wound up with, which is a very large screen with what then we call</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:41"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="581100" data-end="586360">alcoves, all of which contain different media in different forms.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="586560" data-end="591820">The decision ultimately came down to one factor that the theme park industry refers to as</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="591820" data-end="592860">the barf quotient.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 9:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="593100" data-end="600600">I&#8217;ve been a part of tuning the profiles of some extreme rides before, and when people</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:01"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="600600" data-end="606100">get nauseous is a thing that you&#8217;ve got to really dial down because in the ride theme</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:06"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="606100" data-end="610040">park world, you don&#8217;t want to be washing out ride vehicles every four minutes.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:11"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="610680" data-end="615140">But also in the hospital world, you&#8217;ve got different sets of challenges.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:15"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="615360" data-end="620420">You&#8217;ve got patients who might have some loss of equilibrium, might have some nausea from</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:20"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="620420" data-end="621400">medication.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="621920" data-end="625540">And we wanted to make sure we didn&#8217;t overwhelm them.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="626020" data-end="630300">On top of that, the team needed to make sure that the experience wasn&#8217;t just cool, but</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:30"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="630300" data-end="631120">felt sacred.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:32"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="631540" data-end="636680">Roger will tell you that we&#8217;re pretty nitpicky about that&#8217;s not quite right.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="636820" data-end="638100">We have to adjust it.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="638420" data-end="645380">So we&#8217;re kind of fanatically possessed with making it as real and as awesome as we could.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:45"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="645380" data-end="650680">Now, there&#8217;s no doubt that right now, using immersive reality in this situation, people</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:51"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="650680" data-end="655540">just the fact that we used it will think it&#8217;s cool, but it wasn&#8217;t meant to be cool.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="655640" data-end="656860">It was meant to be sacred.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 10:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="657440" data-end="662380">They had community leaders advising on all of the details and even went as far as to</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:02"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="662380" data-end="666780">create their own stained glass when they couldn&#8217;t find any that perfectly fit the comforting</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="666780" data-end="668720">environment they were aiming for.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:09"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="669200" data-end="672820">It looks like it could be made into original stained glass window.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="672940" data-end="674600">It&#8217;s a beautiful piece of art.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:15"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="674600" data-end="678920">But when you go in the room, it does look like we picked a stained glass from somewhere</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:19"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="678920" data-end="679640">and put it there.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:20"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="679780" data-end="688380">But that was some of the nuances of the perfection that we were going for that, you know, there&#8217;s</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:28"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="688380" data-end="693020">a lot of images of Christ that could be distressing during this time.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="693180" data-end="695600">We wanted the comforting images of Christ.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:36"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="696220" data-end="701060">City of Hope recently unveiled this space after two years of development, and patients</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:41"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="701060" data-end="703580">will be able to fully utilize the center in December.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="704020" data-end="709660">The room will be open 24-7 and on the outside of the room, it&#8217;ll show you the scene that</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="709660" data-end="711120">is currently on.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="711560" data-end="715680">But as soon as you walk in, if there&#8217;s no one else in the room, you just go push a button</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 11:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="715680" data-end="719060">and you pick the one you want and it&#8217;ll stay on for 15 minutes.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="719800" data-end="724560">The other thing that&#8217;s very cool is if you were a patient and say we were having a service</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="724560" data-end="729600">in there, if you&#8217;re a patient and you&#8217;re confined to your bed, you can turn it on from</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="729600" data-end="730760">your room and watch it.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:11"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="730760" data-end="735780">Now that Walker and Holzberg have reimagined how spiritual centers can look, they hope</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="735780" data-end="740900">more programs will adopt this immersive experience to enhance their patients&#8217; quality of care.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="741300" data-end="743920">Someone asked me that, do you think this will change the industry?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:24"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="744100" data-end="744860">And I think it will.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="745300" data-end="745860">I do.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="746040" data-end="750240">I think people will say, wow, we just didn&#8217;t think of doing it.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:30"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="750320" data-end="755000">It wasn&#8217;t that they were trying to be thoughtless or exclusionary, I just didn&#8217;t think they</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:35"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="755000" data-end="755480">thought of it.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:36"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="755540" data-end="758920">And also, you know, the technology is relatively new.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:40"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="759680" data-end="764600">You know, it&#8217;s immersive reality has been used in other cases, like Roger has used it</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:45"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="764600" data-end="768860">in children&#8217;s hospitals for immersive experiences for kids.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:49"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="769240" data-end="772560">I went to the Sphere this weekend and saw a concert.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="773100" data-end="773900">It&#8217;s unbelievable.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 12:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="774780" data-end="779500">And so what you&#8217;re seeing is technology is helping health care in a different way.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="779580" data-end="784920">This won&#8217;t be the only way it does, but I do believe it&#8217;s the first time it&#8217;s been used</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="784920" data-end="788180">in this particular circumstances in health care.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="788180" data-end="793100">You can find more information about Annette Walker, Roger Holzberg, and all of our guests</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="793100" data-end="796260">on our website, RadioHealthJournal.org.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="796560" data-end="798380">Our writer-producer is Kristen Farah.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:19"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="798580" data-end="800680">Our executive producer is Amira Zaveri.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="801000" data-end="802000">I&#8217;m Elizabeth Westfield.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:30"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="809810" data-end="814850">Coming up, the engineered diet that could defeat brain tumors, when Radio Health Journal</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:35"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="814850" data-end="815250">returns.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="817530" data-end="823230">Behold, the Colonel&#8217;s giant KFC chicken sandwich, a towering extra crispy monument</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:43"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="823230" data-end="823810">to flavor.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="824450" data-end="830930">Such a huge amount of juicy, hand-breaded KFC chicken at a pretty tiny $3.99 price for</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:51"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="830930" data-end="833250">the Colonel&#8217;s KFC chicken sandwich.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:54"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="833890" data-end="839430">I mean, $3.99 isn&#8217;t even worthy of the same epic soundtrack as the KFC chicken sandwich</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 13:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="839430" data-end="840570">for only $3.99.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:01"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="841070" data-end="843530">The Colonel lived so we could chicken.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:04"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="844110" data-end="846910">Prices and participation vary while supplies last, taxes, tips, and fees extra.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="847090" data-end="851050">I can&#8217;t believe how spotless my floors look after using the Swiffer Power Mop.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:11"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="851050" data-end="853650">No more dragging around a heavy mop and messy bucket.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:14"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="854030" data-end="856410">Now I get the same deep clean without all the work.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="856950" data-end="861110">Thanks to the powerful solution and scrubbing pad of the Swiffer Power Mop, dirt and grime</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="861110" data-end="863390">don&#8217;t stand a chance, and I don&#8217;t break a sweat.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:24"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="863910" data-end="866730">Mic drop, I mean, mop drop.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="870830" data-end="872270">A smarter way to mop.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="872650" data-end="873830">Try it or your money back.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:43"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="882780" data-end="887240">Though neurons are the cell you probably think of first when talking about the brain, did</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="887240" data-end="889960">you know they have a host of bodyguards keeping them safe?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:51"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="890500" data-end="895160">Glia are cells that provide support and protection for neurons and are a vital part of keeping</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="895160" data-end="896520">your body functioning properly.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 14:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="896920" data-end="901340">As you can imagine, cells with such a big responsibility can be destructive if they</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:01"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="901340" data-end="902100">become mutated.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:02"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="902480" data-end="907320">For example, glioblastoma, the most common type of brain cancer, is super aggressive.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="907960" data-end="912620">Many patients are given a life expectancy of one or two years after diagnosis, and that&#8217;s</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="912620" data-end="913900">with the help of treatment.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:14"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="914280" data-end="919800">In many cases, we recommend either surgery to take out tumor as much of it as possible</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:20"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="919800" data-end="921960">or a biopsy to establish a diagnosis.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:23"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="922540" data-end="927600">After surgery, patients will typically undergo standard therapies, that is a combination</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:28"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="927600" data-end="932820">of chemotherapy, a drug called temozolomide, and radiation, and that&#8217;s been our standard</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="932820" data-end="935540">treatment for almost 20 years now.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:36"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="935960" data-end="941240">And despite these treatments being around for so long, we have not really identified</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:41"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="941240" data-end="943340">better treatments for these tumors.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="943920" data-end="948100">That&#8217;s Dr. Wajid Al-Hallou, a neurosurgeon and assistant professor in the Department</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:48"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="948100" data-end="950560">of Neurosurgery at the University of Michigan.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:51"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="951140" data-end="955940">Despite being able to remove much of the tumor in some cases, Al-Hallou says it&#8217;s never</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="955940" data-end="958160">enough to outrun the cancer&#8217;s rapid growth.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 15:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="958680" data-end="962620">Sometimes we can achieve something called a gross total resection, meaning we have removed</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:03"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="962620" data-end="964420">everything that is visible on the MRI.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="965340" data-end="969520">But the reality is, even if we achieve this extensive resection, the tumor is actually</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="969520" data-end="970180">beyond that.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="970300" data-end="975720">It has traveled centimeters into the brain, and so even though surgery has shown to help</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="975720" data-end="981660">improve prognosis, survival, and quality of life, etc., it does not cure the tumors.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="982360" data-end="986180">Glioblastomas are so hard to treat partly because no two tumors are the same.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:27"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="986740" data-end="991020">There are significant genetic differences, which makes it tough to develop a drug that</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="991020" data-end="992740">would be effective for multiple patients.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="993380" data-end="997540">However, the one factor that these tumors have in common is that they all need to consume</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="997540" data-end="999800">energy in order to survive and spread.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:41"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1000540" data-end="1004420">And though there&#8217;s been a lot of research around cancer, Al-Hallou says the one area</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1004420" data-end="1009560">that&#8217;s been overlooked is what these cancerous cells use and how they metabolize energy.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1010180" data-end="1014100">Al-Hallou and a team of researchers sought out to uncover these mysteries with their</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:54"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1014100" data-end="1016020">new paper published in the journal Nature.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 16:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1016620" data-end="1020360">They had guessed that glucose was a good place to start their search since all living</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1020360" data-end="1021120">cells use it.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:01"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1021340" data-end="1026819">It&#8217;s a common source of carbon, it&#8217;s how our cells run most of their metabolic processes.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1027560" data-end="1033160">But the reality is, one cell in the body may use glucose to do one thing, so your brain</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1033160" data-end="1037920">may use glucose to make neurotransmitters, your liver may make enzymes.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:18"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1037920" data-end="1040440">But we don&#8217;t know what the cancer cell is using it for.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1040560" data-end="1044900">So if we know what that cancer cell is using that glucose for, then we can attack that</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1044900" data-end="1045240">pathway.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1045400" data-end="1046619">We can block that pathway.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:27"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1047160" data-end="1049500">This research project is unique in two ways.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:30"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1049800" data-end="1053460">The first is that it&#8217;s a deep dive into the metabolic processes of tumors.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:34"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1053920" data-end="1058540">And second is that it brought together various teams of researchers to contribute their expertise.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1059340" data-end="1063380">Glioma metabolism has been studied in the past, but not in the way that we have done</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:43"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1063380" data-end="1064020">it as a group.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1064020" data-end="1069600">I think what we&#8217;ve realized in the brain tumor world is that the old-fashioned model of one</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1069600" data-end="1072620">scientist discovering things on their own just doesn&#8217;t really work.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1073000" data-end="1078560">You need people who have significant knowledge and expertise in every specialty to make</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 17:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1078560" data-end="1079080">things work.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1079500" data-end="1085080">So you need metabolomics experts, you need bioinformatics and engineering experts, you</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1085080" data-end="1087200">need neurosurgeons, you need radiation oncologists.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1087280" data-end="1091520">Without that, you&#8217;ll never really get to the real truth about these tumors.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:12"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1092400" data-end="1095380">And importantly, you won&#8217;t be able to impact patients&#8217; lives.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1095900" data-end="1097760">The group used two methods in their study.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:18"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1098060" data-end="1102360">They started with isotope tracing, which is a way to follow a certain nutrient, in this</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1102360" data-end="1104220">case glucose, through parts of the body.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1104940" data-end="1109000">Al-Hallouz says that while this is a common technique, it hasn&#8217;t been widely utilized</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:29"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1109000" data-end="1110560">in glioblastoma research.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1111120" data-end="1115280">The second advancement the team was able to utilize was seeing how the tumors acted in</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:35"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1115280" data-end="1116120">human patients.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1116640" data-end="1121020">And most of the time when people study glioma, we&#8217;re often studying it in a cell line in</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:41"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1121020" data-end="1123000">a dish or in a mouse model.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1123580" data-end="1127180">And these are important ways for us to study disease, especially brain tumors.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:48"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1127620" data-end="1132800">But to really know the truth about how a brain tumor behaves in a patient, in a human being,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1133160" data-end="1134720">we need to study it in patients.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 18:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1134940" data-end="1140040">And that&#8217;s really the major leap that we made, is that we were able to study in patients</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1140040" data-end="1145500">and we&#8217;re able to compare the tumor to the brain of that patient.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:06"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1146040" data-end="1147580">So that&#8217;s what was really unique.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1147580" data-end="1151940">And that gave us the opportunity to make these amazing observations and discoveries that</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:12"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1151940" data-end="1152740">I&#8217;d never seen before.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1153200" data-end="1156760">All of their experiments were first done in mouse models, then they were able to give</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1156760" data-end="1161360">human patients glucose during resection surgeries and send a sample of the removed tumor to</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1161360" data-end="1162400">their lab for inspection.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:23"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1162940" data-end="1167060">Their research revealed an exciting finding of how the cancer cells are obtaining and</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:27"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1167060" data-end="1167920">using glucose.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:28"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1168480" data-end="1173960">The cancer cell&#8217;s priority is to grow really fast, divide, and invade into the brain.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:34"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1174280" data-end="1176560">So it has to do a lot with very limited resources.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1177060" data-end="1182540">So it shuttles a lot of its glucose to making these purines and pyrimidines to help the</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:43"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1182540" data-end="1183080">tumors grow.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1183500" data-end="1187560">They also need other things to maintain their cellular processes and to survive.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:48"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1188360" data-end="1191780">And so they end up, instead of making them, they end up essentially like stealing them</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1191780" data-end="1192460">from the environment.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1193120" data-end="1194740">So it ends up using less energy.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1195020" data-end="1196140">You don&#8217;t have to make it from scratch.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1196560" data-end="1198320">You essentially borrow it from somebody else.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 19:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1198700" data-end="1202760">Meaning that the cancer cells are stealing the glucose from the other healthy cells in</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:03"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1202760" data-end="1204920">the brain that need it to carry out their functions.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:06"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1205520" data-end="1210100">Al-Hallou and the team found that the tumor uses the sugar to create an amino acid called</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1210100" data-end="1212320">serine, which fuels its rapid growth.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1212680" data-end="1216380">That was an important discovery in our patient tumor samples.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1216980" data-end="1221220">And then the follow-up question was, now that we&#8217;ve discovered that these tumors require</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1221220" data-end="1225500">specific amino acids but don&#8217;t make it, can we starve them?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1225660" data-end="1228600">Can we starve these tumors of this essential nutrient?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:29"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1229020" data-end="1233660">The second part of that question is, even if you are able to starve the cancer, will</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:34"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1233660" data-end="1234080">it matter?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:35"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1234740" data-end="1236560">Will it impact the tumor&#8217;s function?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1237200" data-end="1238000">And the answer was yes.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:38"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1238100" data-end="1244140">At least in our animal models, the answer is, if you starve these mouse models of serine</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:45"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1244640" data-end="1247120">specifically, the tumors don&#8217;t grow as fast.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:48"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1247660" data-end="1249600">So how do we restrict serine?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1249720" data-end="1250860">That&#8217;s a difficult question.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:51"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1250980" data-end="1255080">It&#8217;s not something that you can easily go to the grocery store and not buy the product</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1255080" data-end="1255660">that has serine.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1255780" data-end="1257800">Serine unfortunately is in lots of things.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 20:58"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1258020" data-end="1260060">So it&#8217;s not easy to do that on your own.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1260480" data-end="1265300">The group is now collaborating with a company that&#8217;s manufacturing specific dietary products</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1265300" data-end="1267220">that don&#8217;t have any serine in them.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1267760" data-end="1271780">Another option the team is looking at is developing a drug that can block the serine</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:12"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1271780" data-end="1273320">from ever getting to the cancer cell.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:14"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1273860" data-end="1277480">Restricting diet in patients is challenging because you&#8217;re talking about a patient who</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:17"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1277480" data-end="1278620">has a very bad tumor.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:19"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1279200" data-end="1282980">You&#8217;re asking them to completely change their lifestyle and their diet to help prevent the</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:23"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1282980" data-end="1283640">tumor from growing.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:24"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1283840" data-end="1285980">And I&#8217;m sure a lot of patients want to do it, but it&#8217;s not easy to do.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1286330" data-end="1290220">It&#8217;s something that we worry may be hard to adhere to in every patient.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1290640" data-end="1295480">But if we can find better ways to block the use of serine in the cells or the transport</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:35"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1295480" data-end="1298300">of serine to the cells, it may actually be more effective.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1299100" data-end="1301600">Which gives the team a lot more work to do moving forward.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:42"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1301860" data-end="1308500">Even though this is a huge, huge accomplishment to find how these brain tumors consume energy,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:49"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1308660" data-end="1313040">what they use glucose for, that serine is a potential vulnerable target.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:54"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1313540" data-end="1314120">It&#8217;s not the end.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:54"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1314120" data-end="1316220">The next step is the easy step.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1316400" data-end="1318300">Can we restrict serine and glycine?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 21:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1318640" data-end="1320340">Can we block serine and glycine?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:01"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1320820" data-end="1321620">Our work continues.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:02"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1321720" data-end="1325480">We&#8217;re trying to find other amino acids, other nutrients that these tumors need.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:06"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1325920" data-end="1326980">So these studies continue.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:07"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1327100" data-end="1328980">We&#8217;re trying to find the next thing.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:09"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1329400" data-end="1334300">And the ultimate goal is we are not going to rest until we find something that is effective</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:14"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1334300" data-end="1334900">in these patients.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:15"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1335440" data-end="1339540">You can find more information about Dr. Wajid Al-Hallou and all of our guests on our website,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:20"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1340120" data-end="1341080">RadioHealthJournal.org.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 22:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1341440" data-end="1343140">Our writer-producer is Kristen Farrah.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play 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story.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1389730" data-end="1397510">Dear love of my life, we were on the 12B bus this morning when I caught a whiff, a scent</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:18"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1397510" data-end="1401370">so fresh, so life-changing, I had to find its source.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:22"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1401910" data-end="1405710">Alas, I didn&#8217;t know if you were the woman in the pink freshly washed cardigan or the</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1405710" data-end="1410270">retired mailman next to me, but I knew one of you was my soulmate.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:31"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1410990" data-end="1413550">Ah, the scent of Gain Fling&#8217;s.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:34"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1413870" data-end="1416470">Try Gain Fling&#8217;s with OxiBoost and Febreze.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1416810" data-end="1419050">You know that expression, put a little spring in your step?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1419410" data-end="1423350">Well, whoever said it must have been talking about GlideStep hands-free sketcher slip-ins.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1423630" data-end="1428350">Because with GlideStep, you get a pillow-like soft landing, then an explosive takeoff.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:49"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1428510" data-end="1432250">It makes walking feel effortless, so springy it&#8217;s almost like you&#8217;re floating.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1432250" data-end="1436610">And speaking of effortless, have you tried hands-free sketcher slip-ins technology?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 23:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1437030" data-end="1440130">Well, GlideStep sketcher slip-ins has got it, and you need it.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1440390" data-end="1444310">Just step in, no hands necessary, and instantly your shoes are on.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1444530" data-end="1449030">No bending down, no touching, it takes putting on your shoes to a new level of convenience.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:09"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1449490" data-end="1453670">Whether you&#8217;re running errands, walking the dog, or on your feet all day at work, GlideStep</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:14"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1453670" data-end="1457270">keeps you comfortable from morning to night, all with the ease of slip-ins.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:18"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1457550" data-end="1461430">Plus, GlideStep sketcher slip-ins are available in styles for men, women, and kids.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1461430" data-end="1466350">From casual to athletic to work footwear, even sandals, so you can get the comfort of</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1466350" data-end="1468450">GlideStep anywhere, anytime.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:29"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1468810" data-end="1473390">Put some major spring in your step with GlideStep hands-free sketcher slip-ins at a Skechers</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1473390" data-end="1476550">store, skechers.com, or wherever stylish footwear is sold.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1479410" data-end="1481070">Medical Notes this week.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:42"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1481510" data-end="1484890">You may soon be able to detect skin cancer at home.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:45"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1485350" data-end="1490110">The ExoPatch is a silicone product that uses microneedles to pick up DNA information from</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1490110" data-end="1490610">our cells.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:51"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1490950" data-end="1493970">It uses this data to detect cancerous fragments.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 24:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1494610" data-end="1499550">When tested on mice, the ExoPatch was able to specifically locate the cancerous DNA.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1500310" data-end="1504790">The scientists are now looking to do a pilot study in humans before moving into clinical</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1504790" data-end="1505390">trials.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:06"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1505930" data-end="1509590">The research is published in the journal Biosensors and Bioelectronics.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1510450" data-end="1513790">A healthy childhood may be more important than you think.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:14"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1514490" data-end="1519270">Research in the European Journal of Pediatrics reveals that your habits as a kid impact your</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:19"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1519270" data-end="1520770">physical health later in life.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1521130" data-end="1526250">Fitness habits are hard to break, so being unhealthy and inactive in early life is most</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1526250" data-end="1527710">likely how you&#8217;ll be as an adult.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:28"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1528110" data-end="1532270">The researchers are also looking into how this impacts obesity and heart disease.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1532950" data-end="1535050">We need better ALS detection.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:36"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1535730" data-end="1540910">The degenerative nervous system disease is estimated to affect 400,000 people across</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:41"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1540910" data-end="1542130">the globe by 2040.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:43"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1542690" data-end="1547430">Sadly, there&#8217;s not currently a diagnostic test, but researchers have been working on</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:47"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1547430" data-end="1551450">identifying a marker that can catch ALS years before symptoms appear.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1551910" data-end="1556490">The research, published in Nature Medicine, shows that specific proteins in blood can</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:56"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1556490" data-end="1558650">detect the disease with significant accuracy.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 25:59"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1559250" data-end="1564310">This would give researchers time to find effective treatments before ALS becomes debilitating.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1565150" data-end="1568990">And finally, is binge-watching TV good for your mental recall?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1569570" data-end="1573530">Binge-watching has become a popular way to consume your favorite show, and researchers</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:14"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1573530" data-end="1575030">say it may have some benefits.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:15"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1575410" data-end="1579990">A new study in Acta Psychologica reveals that people who engage in marathon viewing</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:20"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1579990" data-end="1584510">are more likely to remember stories and engage with the content even after watching it through</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:25"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1584510" data-end="1585070">imagination.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:26"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1585850" data-end="1587670">And that&#8217;s Medical Notes this week.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:28"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1588050" data-end="1589630">I&#8217;m Maayan Vastabetancourt.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:30"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1589950" data-end="1590590">You hear that?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:33"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1592570" data-end="1596070">That&#8217;s Mike sleeping soundly on a Sunday night.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1597470" data-end="1599350">That&#8217;s because Mike was smart this time.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:39"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1599350" data-end="1605010">He took Zequel Ultra to fall asleep fast, stay asleep longer, and get the deeply restorative</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:45"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1605010" data-end="1605770">sleep he needs.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:46"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1606030" data-end="1609010">So now he wakes up refreshed and ready to conquer Mondays.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:50"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1609750" data-end="1611310">Let&#8217;s do this, Monday.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:52"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1611770" data-end="1612590">Zequel Ultra.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:53"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1613010" data-end="1614970">Not for colds, just for sleep.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:55"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1615310" data-end="1617130">Really great sleep.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:57"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1617410" data-end="1618010">Use as directed.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 26:58"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1618190" data-end="1619110">Keep out of reach of children.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:00"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1619790" data-end="1622430">Oh, could this vintage store be any cuter?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:03"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1622570" data-end="1622890">Right?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:03"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1623090" data-end="1623910">And the best part?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:04"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1624050" data-end="1625050">They accept Discover.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:05"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1625450" data-end="1626150">Accept Discover?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:06"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1626330" data-end="1627890">In a little place like this?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:08"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1627890" data-end="1629350">I don&#8217;t think so, Jennifer.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:10"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1629630" data-end="1630430">Oh, yeah, huh.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:11"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1630770" data-end="1632630">Discover&#8217;s accepted where I like to shop.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:13"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1632790" data-end="1634650">Come on, baby, get with the times.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:15"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1635330" data-end="1635850">Right.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:16"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1636110" data-end="1638230">So we shouldn&#8217;t get the parachute pants?</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:19"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1638630" data-end="1639870">These are making a comeback.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:21"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1641170" data-end="1642210">I think.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:23"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1642810" data-end="1646310">Discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:27"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1646830" data-end="1649290">Based on the February 2025 Nielsen Report.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:32"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1652050" data-end="1656370">Thank you for joining us this week, and every week, as we break down the science stories</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:36"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1656370" data-end="1657170">you need to know.</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:37"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1657480" data-end="1662070">You can find all of our past segments and guests on our website, RadioHealthJournal.org,</span></span> <span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:42"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1662270" data-end="1664110">or wherever you listen to podcasts.</span></span></p><p><span class="cursor-pointer group" title="Play starting at 27:44"><span class="group-hover:bg-base-200 rounded p-0.5 -m-0.5" data-start="1664470" 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